Suggestion: Mann Co. Supply Crate Key at 20 ref

The sheer amount of buyers at 19.88-20 ref shows how badly this needs a raise. The amount of buyers and sales at 20 ref or more should justify this 20 ref price point.

Notes:

1. Cooldown: 3 days unless the price has changed by 0.33 refined or greater.

2. Sellers/buyers may change their price from what is listed here.

3. Please keep the comments relevant to this suggestion. Redirect any economy-related discussions to the forums.

4. Additional sales and proof are always welcomed.

nice that is one upboat from me

downvote, doesn't own enough keys

I cri evy tim

Sheesh, 20 ref.

I'm bracing myself for all of the uneducated children that are inevitably going to yell at us about how high the key prices are.

Upvote, btw.

Not to be a bother, but why nothing for 19.99? Is the market at that value just so small/insignificant

Lololol 19.99 is just rounded to 20 :P

Because 19 ref and 9 scrap = 20 ref. There isn't any difference, in this game 0.99 = 1.

Very nice proof. upvote

Day 2 update - more buyers at 20 ref:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24423454

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25625279

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25616997

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25258464

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25154252

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25511073

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25610828

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23987074

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16477450

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25621133

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25065144

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25625037

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25623574

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25622182

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25623055

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25519563

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25617654

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25615257

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25080644

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25402821

You are all completely blind, the people buying at 19.88, know you people will up the price. Why wouldn't you It's a investment, good proof? Ha, this whole website's form of trading is a joke.

20 ref, this is the big one

Ye man. Super excited about this.

of course you are: OWNS 578. :p

Actually, I care very little about key to ref ratio. If anything, I want keys to go down.

1. I trade unusuals and other high tiered items. My profits are from those high tiered trades. Ref decreasing in value does nothing for me.

2. In these trades, I get tons of small items as sweets; items that are valued in ref. This is why I would rather have ref increase in value, so those items do not depreciate.

And what I meant was "I'm excited to be the one to suggest for 20 ref".

just to be clear, my comment was meant to be a joke. no ill will here.

No problem.

I'm sure other people have the same thought, so I felt the need to address it.

wait if you want keys to go down why you make a price suggestion for increasing their price? you ve really lost me in here...

ps: please do not tell me you do that because you just want to be fair to the market as a price suggestor and backpack community member.

He does it because he wants to be fair to the market as a price suggester and backpack community member.

Keys don't increase in value. It is the refined that decrease in value.

As I have stated above, ref decreasing in value does nothing for me. I don't care if I can buy more cosmetics in ref. I have more than enough unusuals.

If I don't make a price suggestion to raise the key price to 20 ref, someone else will. So to answer your question: yes, I "just want to be fair to the market as a price suggestor and backpack community member."

Yeah the thing is that ref decreases in value ONLY after key is rising . Thats what happening here during the last months , not the other way around. You also said in a previous comment that you would prefer a 'strong' ref so many small value items would keep their value. Here we agree. I think all the healthy thinking users prefer that but unfortunately it wont happen. A key you could obtain by trading for example 2 items now you would obtain it by trading 4 items . Thats what people wont understand and not willing to understand . It will hit back as a boomerang for many of the traders out there in the future. Anyway I just wanted to ask so i asked :) By the way you know that with backpack beeing accused for corruption , price manipulation etc someone who holds almost 600 keys seems suspicious when making a price suggestion to rise them. Good luck to whatever you do mate.

Yes. I understand your concern of a ~600 keys owner "raising" the price, hence the explanation above. Besides that, it really is up to the community to understand the economy behind everything.

Please stay 20 ref flat, all my wishes would come true.

Would be so incredibly easy to list stuff with an accurate value *-* (like 1.5 instead of 1.46)

The previous suggestion's results tho. Successful bait.

Upvote

A lot of proof

And thanks I sold a key for 20 ref cus of your proof :)

The crafting addicts must be having a blast with these prices.

Good proof, Good amount on your behalf, UV for this one;

#7CraftHatsComingSoon

Craft addict here :P

21 is perfect because I can have 7 cosmetics! :D

Jusy one more ref <3

god dam 578 keys you own?

holy shit that's a lot

It's not. Once you get to this tier of trading, it really isn't.

"Once you get to this tier of trading"

*Prepares corner for crying in.*

Upvote Nice proof

I wonder what will happen to keys when refined loses value completely (which I'm sure they won't), or if refined becomes a fraction of a cent... *shudders*