Suggestion: Power Surge Samur-Eye at 64 keys

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~51 keys

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This suggestion was closed Fri, 24 Apr 15 20:41:15 +0000 by aaroncsn.

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This hat is impossible to sell

Resuggesting with fixed price :3

Please ignore my name. Also, my first unusual price suggestion, constructive criticism is welcome.

Based on my knowledge of the rules you only need one sale to update a price?

Clean Power Surge Samureye + 4 keys sold for a Clean Green Energy Noble Amassment of Hats

Noble Amassment of hats: 75*.9= 68-4= 64

Other two sales in the last 3 months are quicksells, I sold mine quick to a friend and he sold to the original owner in this sale for a quicksell.

Proof:

Backpack Samureye before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198128436804?time=1428044400

Backpack Samureye after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198128436804?time=1428130800

Backpack GE Hats before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197997578264?time=1427958000

Backpack GE Hats after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197997578264?time=1428217200

360 rage scoped m9

Your sale doesnt count as a quicksale, since you've had it on the outpost for some days before you sold it

The other sale most definitely does not qualify as a quicksale due to it being on the outpost for a few weeks before it sold. I think you need to at least mention them. they might still be outliers, but Id rather say they make this sale an outlier (one sold for a max head if I saw correctly, but I didnt dig into it too much, your own sale seemed to have consisted of 3 low tier unus at first glance)

I sold mine to my friend who bought it for 3 unusuals and several pro ks stranges adding up to far below that of the original price in a quicksale (my outpost is poorly bumped i close and reopen trades often)

Also the sale occured on a trade server not outpost, assuming that i closed my trade = i sold it is somewhat skewed logic.

My other friend also informed me he sold his on a trade server for at a quicksell price of 3.5 buds (Priced in buds was 5 at the time)

I also bought the hat at 3.5 pure which was by no means a quicksell, however that sale occured last year.

Either way, I am not counting the trade I made with my friend as it involved real life money(cash), something i could never provide proof of and my friend was cashing out (bread and butter; you can look up his account) and sold it in several seconds on a trade server.

ehh, the other friend you mentioned has had it on the outpost for weeks at 4 buds (before for 5 if I saw correctly) which is approximately what it sold for, so regardless of how fast it sold on a trade server, the outpost shows it takes a while to sell at that value.

Additionally, I find it hard to believe that someone that is cashing out would pay you real life money for your hat (thats like the reverse of cashing out). I still think you cant flat them out just like that (especially considering both sales happened at prices far lower than the suggested price, closer to each other than to this sale)

Do i need to get him online so he can approve my message?

By your logic, if i advertise my entire backpack on outpost for sale for a week and then try to quicksell something, no matter what price i sell something at it is not a quicksell.

Also, i gave him cash, he didn't give me cash so i wouldn't have to use my precious keys to make change.

I would include them but one is impossible to provide accurate proof for(also a quicksell) and the other occured by someone who was basically quickselling/selling his entire backpack for pure. (And i would clarify that given by the fact that his trade was poorly monitored and it sold quickly on a trade server it would be considered a 'quicksell')

- I dont doubt whether or not he will say cash was involved, I doubt whether its actually the case. (he's your irl friend, of course he says it was)

- No. by my logic, if an item is unsold at 4 buds for a while and is then sold for something currently worth 4 buds, it is not a quicksell.

- You giving him cash (as a seller) makes the value of what you were selling even lower than what was actually returned, i.e it would only be more evidence the sale you use is an outlier.

- theres a difference between someone "quickselling" his backpack and the sales being qualified as actual quicksells. [b]a sale that took 3 weeks is not a quicksell, even if the seller says hes quickselling, even if someone is cashing out. by definition[b]

Regardless of all the above, regardless of sales, cash and whatnot, there has been a B/O far below the suggested value up for a significant period, which indicates this flat price is too high.

Maybe i forgot to mention this but i'll mention it now. Very little to no bumping was done as I check outpost very little. An advertisement doesn't advertise if no one sees it.

The entire trade came out to around 52 keys (buds were around 12 keys at the time, which is above 4 buds) and might i add that It is impossible to provide proof for that trade thus even if it was included it would (or should) get downvoted.

He sold it at quicksell price and he sold it quickly. I'm not quite sure what else needs for it to qualify as a quicksell. Your argument is that it didn't sell quickly but i think that argument doesn't hold as he stated that it was a quicksell, it sold in under 6 days (which is fast for a third gen unusual), and he sold it at a quicksell price.

Edit: If you disagree with my suggestion why don't you make a counter suggestion with the proof you can't gather from trades that can't be confirmed?

Double Edit: I'm sorry for being snarky.

Triple Edit: Not really but i'm trying to make a point

- the entire trade at 52 keys used outdated hat prices. I can track the sale just fine using histories.

- In price voting, quicksale has a definition. this sale does not match the definition. Ergo, its NOT a quicksale. deal with it.

Response to edit: Becuase I wanted to help you. [insert saying about giving a fish or a fishing rod]. But okay, sure, I will.

I dunno what the point is of the other edits, Ill disregard them.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55242b6aba8d88a2538b4684 I have provided an explanation on what i think the best range that would be on that suggestion.