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Sale #1 - Using as high end in lieu of occurring during the apex of bud crash and still involving keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25285393
57 keys, smoking chapeau, duped ge doctors sack
57 + 0.9 (18+ 23 )
Price: 94 keys
Had a B/O of 10 buds., taking buds as 9
Price: 90 keys
Sale #2 - Ignoring since the price of festivizer is based off a B/O and has no valid sales
No link
sold for RA festivizer
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198143083940?time=1425456000 > http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198143083940?time=1425580700
Price : 60*0.9 = 54 keys
Sale #3 - Ignoring since it went in a day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25124368
sold for purple energy phantom
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198035365329?time=1424419200 > http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198035365329?time=1424419200
Price : 60 *0.9 - 54 keys
Sale #4 - Using as low end (rounded off to 75) since it included a fair amount of pure
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24578782
sold for beams billycock and max;s
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198065132511?time=1424246400 > http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198065132511?time=1424363363
Price: 43 *0.9 + 39 = 77 keys
Sale #5 - Ignoring since it's almost 2 months old
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24542590
stormy KE
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198065132511?time=1420790400 > http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198065132511?time=1420963200
Price: 80 *0.9 = 71 keys
MINIS
i) RA FEstivizer
http://backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Industrial%20Festivizer/Tradable/Craftable/72 - 60 keys.
Only one in ages from what i could see
ii) Duped GE Doctor' Sack
http://backpack.tf/item/430650478
Only sale i could find that didnt involve outdated, unpriced or multiple unusuals was between PoorAsianBoy and Laughing Lollipop and that involved CSGO keys. Since the sale with sack cannot be ignored for the phantom, im going with Woifi's multiply by 12 method to estimate an average price.
Price: 1.9*12 = 23
iii) STORMY KILLER EXCLUSIVE
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24902546
Sold for 5 buds + 13 keys
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197999019958?time=1422691200 > http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197999019958?time=1422777600
Price: 78 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25396452
sold for secret hot dogger
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198084130751?time=1426575600 > http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198084130751?time=1426662000
no valid sales
No link
Sold for peace dragonborn + presidents executioner
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198081886913?time=1425110400 > http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198081886913?time=1425369600
Cant find any valid sales for dragonborn that doesnt invovle unpriced, or outdated hats. None in the market atm either.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24525644 - B/O of 80
Funny, I declined your trade offer on my phantom and now you want to lower it. Better include all the trades!
I make it my business to research hats before I go after them so that I don't end up offering and buying it for stupidly high prices.So its not like I WANT to lower it, These are all the sales for the clean misty phantom. If you can make a better price suggestion, by all means please go ahead. I don't mind closing.
!You Forgot to Include RING'S trade to Troll! (Even if it was duped, you should still be including it)
Things worth mentioning (To the admin deciding this vote, most of all) : Offered an Amaranthine Company Mann ~ 123.5k Proof: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25480506#latest
Also offered Peace sign Gibus: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25480506#latest
Offered 100 keys pure: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25484693 (Scroll down to Joko, keys were in his inventory. After owner declined, he bought a misty skull yellow belt)
Hope this helps.
P.S Most trades here a going to be ~2 months old soon. Don't know if it were smart to include soon-to-be-outdated sales in this vote!
Price of Peace Sign Gibus: 135k, not outdated yet. 1For1 was offered.
Also offered Misty skull Private eye: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25480506#latest (Kidzila) (96-112 Keys, although outdated)
Both clean.
As you can see, this hat goes for more than the above set price. I also see 77 keys as very low.
Gibus is 2 months old.There have been sales after its pricing that put it below the current one.
Edit: there's one in classifieds selling for 125.
Doesn't matter, what counts is the price NOW. Yet the price 125k is above the price your vote is listing.
Like I've already mentioned, feel free to make a new suggestion raising all your issues and complaints over there. I have no problem with closing this if a better one is made.
I did speak to RING'. He confirmed that Joko retracted the offer before he could respond. Peace Sign Gibus is ready for a drop, I checked its sales. The Company Man would be a valid point though, but seeing the person who offered it didnt wait even for a day after offering to sell it makes me think he wasnt very invested in the item.
Proof of conversation? I have shown the proof of the offer, and the offerer DID have the keys in his inventory. If you feel like the gibus is ready for a drop, best do it before this vote ends, otherwise I'd see no point.
I can confirm that Joko retracted the offer before i could respond.
More counter proof (I will probably make a counter against this vote soon): http://prntscr.com/6uusd2 (Trade from Ring to TroLL Pumpkiin) Misty Skull phantom + pardners = dbd , modest = nnb + keys & Aussie knife for Secret Phantom. Also, "Face" offered me a trade, (Buccaneer with knifestorm effect ~75 keys) + 25 keys pure. He is a clever guy, as he added me to offer, so I don't have any proof. (Yet, I find it funny that he offered more than the vote is worth)
Alright, let me calculate the sale that happened.
DBD Pardners (24 Keys) + Caribou (36 Keys) + Misty Skull Phantom (X Value) + Australium Knife (21 Keys) + NnB Modest (17 Keys) + 5 Keys = Secret Phantom (~260 Keys)
Misty Skull Phantom (X-Value)= 157 Keys
Mini-Suggestions:
DBD Pardners (8 months Outdated):
Sold for Australium Sniper Rifle (35 Keys) w/ Australium Frontier Justice (11 Keys) ~24 Keys
Before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198072567355?time=1427871600
After: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198072567355?time=1427958000
Secret Phantom (8 months old): http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25596515
-Sold for Anti-Freeze Brainiac ~260 Keys
Before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198023759679?time=1428476400
After: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198023759679?time=1428390000
Therefore, that sale was an Outlier. It was a large sale involving a lot of unusuals. Unless more sales or offers happen to be in the range of ~150 Keys, I don't think it will be count as valid evidence.
Ty for your response.
But if a duped one sold for more than the clean one, it doesnt seem very fair to exclude it while pricing the item. Something seems off here, we'll have to look for other sales for the secret phantom and the pardners.
edit: the af brainiac sold for duped secret big county, duped dbd vintage tyrolean and c9 authority, all of which are outdated. rip.
Yes, if a duped one sold more than a clean one, it absolutely make sense to include it into the range.
However, the situation here doesn't allow us to do that as this sale is a bulk sale, where there are lots of items involved. Therefore, it makes sense to exclude it from the range.
Anyways, rip af brainiac T_T
Maybe we should ask an admin for help so that we can settle this?
Close this, please. You need to make another vote, because I sold my phantom, as you know.
Closing this because the sale that formed the basis for the low end just became two month old, thereby leaving only one valid sale.