Suggestion: Green Energy Vintage Tyrolean at 58 keys

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~126 keys

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This suggestion was accepted Tue, 28 Apr 15 23:27:57 +0000 by aaroncsn.

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9 months old price.

Read the whole thing before voting.

Sold it myself for 58 pure to Bhawks:

http://i.imgur.com/mIt86AI.png

Don't see why it should be priced at what it was priced at 9 months ago lol.

Also another sale:

a clean GE Tyro sold for a C.Peace sign Pyromancer's mask (4.5 buds at that time). 2 giftwraps (1.8 keys low), 2 ref and 16 keys.

4.5*.9 *10= 40+16+~2= 58

Proof:

http://i.imgur.com/m26Mtdd.png

Here is the trade:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25459231

Another sale:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25228499

Sold for 5 pure when buds were at 11-10 keys per= 55-50 keys.

With 20 in existence, you should be able to find more sales

20 in existence with a few ones on the market. I can get another sale for around 5 buds pure when buds were around 10 keys (sold to Eadlef). All sellers surprisingly enough raised their B/Os by double with the prices changes. Those don't get traded often.

Because we aren't in GE Tyro suggestion totally.

Heh I see what you did there :)

My mistake anyways.

1 sale is too low

I have provided 2 sales.

EDIT: 3 sales.

COUNTERPROOF:

Sold for 99 keys pure + Genuine Sharp dresser

( http://i.imgur.com/R4VOCdx.png + http://i.imgur.com/ff8CafT.png )

Can be considered an outlier. 1 sale of ~73 pure (as demonstrated in my proof below :) ) against 3 sales of ~58 (Range is kind of messed, I agree to that, I can make another suggestion for 50-58) especially when the sale happened

So you're giving me your only sale against 3 sales I've found for said price.

99 keys pure? I see buds, a max and some keys. How much were maxs in Feb? Buds? I see 9 keys. Genuine Spec KS Sharp Dressers go for 4 keys most of the time from my own experience.

In Feb, buds were ranging from 12-13 keys, so we can easily say it was ~24 pure

+9= 37

Max was around 35 low to 40 high. Or if you want to take bud value from then...

So around 73 keys or so. Again, the tyrolean then sold for much less, in multiple sales and even later. Can this not be considered as an outlier?

Hello, thanks for responding to my comment,

just wanted to let you know that the trade happened on 17 FEB

on 17 feb a max was 62.7 keys ( http://backpack.tf/stats/Unique/Max%27s%20Severed%20Head/Tradable/Craftable )

on 17 feb earbuds were 12 keys ( x2= 24 keys )

62.7+ 24 + 9 + some refs = 99 keys

This could be an outlier as you're saying, but outliers mostly don't happen very often like that in pure.

Anyway, good luck :)

On Feb 17 Maxs were not 62.7 keys. I don't know where you're bringing those prices. I did throw a look at the history chart, and they seem to be ranging from 40mostly in that timerange until the new sugg. at Feb.27.

Nevertheless, even if its rare to see this in pure, it can be considered as an outlier. And the sales I have quoted are more recent. Thank you.

Well, I might be miss seeing but on 18 aug 2014 maxes were 62,7 keys

On 27 febrauri 2015 they changed to 38-40 keys

isn't that what http://backpack.tf/stats/Unique/Max%27s%20Severed%20Head/Tradable/Craftable is saying?

& yes yours are 1-2 months more recent, i agree

this may indeed be an outlier, idfk i'm not good with unusual suggestions tough, thx for your time

Yet people were not exactly dealing with max's at 62.7 keys at FEB 17. It was just priced around that, doesn't mean that people were dealing with them at 62 keys especially 10 days before the suggestion of 38-40 keys.

Doesn't matter, However it may have been extremely outdated on FEB 17, it was still worth 62.7 keys, wich the buyer took it for

Lol. If an item was priced at 62.7 keys but people deal with it for 40 keys, it's worth 40 keys and not 62.7 keys. This is a faulty logic that isn't generally followed in suggestions. So 10 days before a price suggestion of a 38-40 range, people were dealing wih maxs for 62.7 keys? Seems legit to me. (Satire). Max's were not going for 62.7 keys before 10 days of the suggestion, sir. This is literally being a slave of bp.tf when the price range suggested by the site was of 62 keys, according to you. There was a need to change the range after literally 10 days of your sale, and no one took maxs for 62.7 keys then.

And even then, it's still considered an outlier, meaning this has literally nothing to do with my own suggestion of more recent sales.

For the third time now... I have already agreed with you that this may be an outlier,... omg ...

& yes perhaps people were selling for 38-40 but maybe the guy accepted the max head as 62.7 ? because it was worth that much on that day... you can say all you want, OFFICIALY a max head was worth 62.7 Keys on 17th februari, that's a fact, ok?

I understand your point correctly, but how can you actually consider this as an outlier if it was sold at the right price?

just a question

Are you stupid? Do you realize that Max's price was OUTDATED on Feb. 17 which is why people made a suggestion?

If you are a slave of bp.tf then I'm sorry but you being blind is your own issue. A buyer can take any item at any value, an outdated one, but it would need a change in that case. Which is why people do minis in suggestions.

Officially to bp.tf slaves, blind people, max's were 62.7 keys but NO ONE was dealing with max's for 62.7 keys lol.

I'm considering this an outlier as I have multiple sales for a certain value which far exceed the number of the 'one' sale. And it's not even the same value, but since you think bp.tf rules over every price of every singe item even though their value are CLEARLY outdated... Why do you think I'm making this suggestion? To fix the range on this hat. Because it is outdated. Else someone would have to make a mini in another suggestion with a deal for a GE Tyro. . Because people don't deal for GE Tyros for what it was priced at... 9 MONTHS AGO. How does that even require a question?

oh god... srsly?

I've said 4 times now... I agree this may be an outlier, you just keep on saying the same argument, i already agreed on that, omg who's the stupid one?

I had to repeat what I said 4 times for you to start to comprehend what I had to say. If you have nothing constructive to say, then please, I don't need useless comments on my suggestion. G'day.

Whats useless about counter proof?

If you can only insult people on this social media, please quit tf2

Counter proof being a complete outlier, AND overpricing your 'counterproof' stands invalid to me.

I don't care if you got hurt about what I said. Please. If you have nothing constructive to say and just rely on your emotions to do the work for you, quit my suggestion.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25642245 Sold for Sunbeams Grimm Hatte(102 * 0.9 = ~92 keys) + ~2.5 keys in Sweets. Making this ~95 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25459231 b/o 60 keys. Sold for Circling Peace Sign Pyromancer + 16 keys + ~2 keys in sweets

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25388071 Traded this + 1 bud for Sunbeams Tree(72 keys * 0.9 = ~65 keys) + 2 keys + ~4 keys in sweets. Making this ~61 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25317142 Sold for 5 buds + 7 keys pure. Making this ~57 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25289442 Sold for Strange Specialized killstreak Australium Rocket Launcher (~52 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25079883 Sold for Poisone Shadows Gentleman's Ushanka ( ~55 keys * 0.9 = 50 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25335533 Sold for Blighted Beak Blizzardy Storm + 26 keys + Sweets. This should be close to 60.

So we have plenty of sales in the 50 keys-60 keys region and one sale at 90+. With this, it is safe to assume that 90+ keys sales are outliers. This is close enough. Accepting.