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No cooldown for changes more than 0.33, as Hex has pointed out: http://i.imgur.com/SxdULdT.png
Sellers at 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25699160
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701157
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25700524
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25700889
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25700782
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25702332
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701644
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701414
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25702232
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25702203
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25694226
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25532616
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701276
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23798941
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25435605
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701671
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701658
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25699126
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24423454
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25155027
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701044
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25677731
Sellers at 18.11
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25486455
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24967973
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25555141
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25699016
Sellers at 18.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701338
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25526356
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25702188
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25702067
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23229585
Sellers at 18.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25702155
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25682247
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25692967
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25684545
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25699712
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701399
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25688408
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25700594
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25679471
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25700299
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25700076
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25686628
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25699452
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25698675
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25699215
Way too easy to get keys at lower :)
http://imgur.com/YVsJgUg 10 ref seller lol
Owns 0, what a scrub :^)
Thanks for countering me, I'll go cry in a corner now.
[Insert sad HL2 music here]
Look at those proofs ;w;
Yeah I decided to improve on the quantity of proof on key suggestions, because of http://backpack.tf/vote/id/552aebb7b98d88f5528b47c6
People stated I needed more proof, think this is enough for them.
But has there ever been more proof than http://backpack.tf/vote/id/552c6bc4b88d88a0378b4880 ?
Yes there has, I did a key suggestion with over 300 links: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/530830964cd7b807128b4568
Sweaty!!! :P
just for helping http://imgur.com/OVPgJfm
The proof is enough plus the people are Quickselling Their Keys on Bp.tf
i don`t sure but..i think you`re still need unsolds
Sellers are unsolds. Just worded differently.
He doesn't need unfolds if he has evidence of people selling at his suggested price
still there too many people selling for lower than 18 ref also 17 ref
It cannot be lower than 17.77; http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key
And there's not enough sellers to include 17-etc in the range.
2 hours have passed and now keys are selling for 17.66 refined on trade.tf, so this suggestion is going to be out of date before its even accepted.
The link regi has in this little string of comments is too outdated, buyers are now downs to 17.44
Can't wait for the QS key hype ends ;-;
I have joined this hype.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25702820
If you wanna quicksell them just try trade.tf ;P
what is going on, one day they rises like 1 ref per day, next day they goes down quickly by 1 ref
kk its economy, but still, why
just imagine how many keys you can buy if you own all the unique hats in the game.
droping key back down to 2.33 ref will make every noob trader huppy but scrap.tf owner happier.
This i will upvote because it lowers the price, but the price listed is incorrect, the correct price is around 17-17.66 ref, look on classifieds all trading sites even scrap.tf is buying for 16.66 ref.
Nice amount of evidence. Upvote.
But keys would rise again, wouldn't they?
I have 20 in stock and I'm gonna get 14 more because friend owes me.
I just lost 20 ref today... ;-;
I see no reason why keys should rise again, maybe its just a trend atm but who knows.
keys will rise again anyway. thats how inflation(rise in key value)/deflation(lowering in ref value) works.
well I sold all of my keys for 20 ref when I saw that scrap.tf was into lowering their price.now I wait till they start rising it again.Geel will need more hats at some point.
Nice.
I shall provide some evidence, lets make these keys go down in price.
Sellers at 18 Refined:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25702820
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25435605
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25698781
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25702872
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701157
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25702636
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701276
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701414
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701671
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701658
Sellers at 17.88:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25532616 (Bot)
Yeah. Seems like there are a ton of sellers at 18 ref. 18-18.33 can be argued to be a bit conservative, but more than likely the most commonly traded price at this point.
Market is changing rapidly, hence why I got countered, since my suggestion was out of date within only a few hours ;_;
Yeah which sucks for people who are suggesting, but acknowledging the rapid change you could counter/make another suggestion ;)
Keys could probably go even lower now, but ill wait a bit and see before I attempt again.
Seems reasonable, by the looks of it they will drop further by quite a bit. Guess my prediction was correct.
Found some sellers at 18.33 but I wanted to support the low end to get the suggestion accepted faster c:
fall of da keyz...again.
It's because there's no demand for them.
And the fact that now everyone's quickselling theirs.
Nice suggestion, hope this passes! Upvote!
also add trade.tf, buying and selling under 18ish.
Be sure to credit me if you do add it!
Please elaborate on how the economy is "dying".
Please elaborate on how the economy is being "saved".
More proof:
Scrap.tf is buying/selling for 17 REF
https://scrap.tf/keys
first time they've ever sold and bought an item for the same price. WOW!
Didn't actually expect a drop this soon... Well, traders seem to change their minds a lot.
May i ask, what triggered sellers to sell their keys at a lower price?
Not now when the price is falling, but when it was stable-ish...
Think there was a suggestion before that went up, after that panic sellers started popping up, then more and more suggestions appeared, and people started selling at even lower.
Could be something else, but I think it's cause of a suggestion that popped up. Same thing that happened to buds.
I personally paniced my self, sold my keys for a bud, they might start rising a bit since the price of a key is falling down, as usually.
The keys were kinda on the edge. There is an official price of the key on the TF2 store, and eventually if they would rose too much in refined, then people could've just bought the key cheaper on the tf2 store rather than in refined.
The closer the key got in refined to be as much as the tf2 store price, the thinner the line got to trigger sellers to panic and to sell them for refined at a slightly lower price than usual only to cause a chain reaction of hype to sell the keys cheaper.
It was a "key" idea to lower the current key prices.
Anyway, have my upvote.
Key price is probably a lot lower now, sure you're aware though.
I know. Trying to see if I can find different Outpost sellers to re-suggest.
So theoretically these could drop to 2.33 in one day if we made a bunch of suggestions with real proof (from panic sellers) bringing it down by a rec each time? Doesnt that negate the point of cool down?
Cooldown only applies to regular Joes. Those on top meaning top of the ladder can make up to 1,0000 suggestions and approve amongst themselves. Just keep quiet and do as the rich do. Buy low and sell high. This happens every 3-4 months. Pay attention to the pattern. I'd suggest you buy some cheap buds now because after the drop of key prices guess what's next? the rise of buds? NO? watch, bp.tf is too predictable.