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Close enough to a month. Time to price this thing.
Surprised that this thing is going for only 75 keys...
#Sniper #CanYouLiterallyTakeABathPls #YoureStinkingUpMyToyota
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24395339 - Sold for a Level 1, 5, and 31 Max Heads.
29 + 29 + 32 = 90 Keys. (Taking Maxes at the time of their sale. Not current prices.)
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198016250575?time=1426748400
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198016250575?time=1426834800
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Thanks again, time to take screenshot :P
I had a moderator correct me in the previous suggestion. That's why I bumped it here.
I'm not about your suggestion, it is fine.
hint - check outpost
why is level 5 being counted as 3 keys less than level 31? 1s and 7s are the mass duped, no?
also if the current owner can prove a single one of his offers that are listed on his trades then this is a clear outlier, or you've missed some information. paypal could have been part of the trade. i would add kodan to find out.
i would buy this in a heartbeat for 90 keys.
I was thinking 1 and 5 was the mass duped one. I knew 1 was it, but I forgot what other single digit number was duped.
Anywho. I can just round it to 90. It was an honest mistake on my part.
From looking on the last sale, there is hardly any offers that look impressive.
and what about the fact that the current owner is claiming massively higher offers than your sale?
Yet, not providing any screenshots of that? You do realize people can manipulate offers.
The only offer I seen considerably higher than this is the Scorching Tower + Ooze Wrap from the beginning in January. Person was originally seeking 30 buds back then, but, person retracted and the person seemed to be interested in somewhat 90 to 100 key (now) hats after February.
It eventually sold for those three Max Heads and people are claiming that person sharked. I would love clarification on those offers, because if they're actual legitimate offers, then I will close this suggestion. Otherwise, I'm not going to buy it.
you know you can seek clarification from the person who claims the offers and you can clarify the actual sale with the people involved instead of getting rowdy at me over it, right?
i offered my stare hong kong cone which is unpriced for it. if you seriously think that's a 90 key hat though you're wrong.
I didn't intend to get rowdy. I just elaborated where I drawn my conclusions of why I'm not buying the current offers.
And I highly doubt it is a 90 key hat, but proof is proof. Alongside, that is almost a 1 month old sale too.
you're still sticking to the idea that it sold exclusively for the max's. the same guy offered 10 pure when buds were 11, was "willing to talk" which i would interpret as willing to negotiate upwards; yet got it for 20 keys less?
Do remember. Buds were starting to take a tumble at the time when that person placed the 10 bud offer down.
"Willing to talk" could be anything. Negoitate up, down, sideways, off a cliff, who knows? For what I know, it sold for three Max heads.
whereas max's hadn't been historically dropping at all... and also that's why i used the bud price a week after his offer to price them. still well over your sale.
for the record, max's dropped 8 keys between the time when he was offered 10 buds and the time when you're saying he got the max's.
and you don't say you're offering 10 pure and willing to talk if you mean you're actually offering 9 pure because that's about as nonsensical as using this sale when it's so blatantly not the value of the hat that I strongly suspect you're missing information about it.
Aaron gave me the price of 32 at the time of the transaction. It correlates to what it says on the item information.
That's actually not the case. It sold for three max heads and solely that.
yes, and when he was offered 10 buds, on the 2nd march, max's were 38-40. i'm addressing your point that buds were "taking a tumble", which is your explanation for disregarding a 110 key offer. max's were taking a much bigger "tumble" at that time, shedding over 20% of value between the 2nd and when he traded for them. but you're happy to use those as proof here. why not the 10 bud offer?
not to mention that the "ooh buds were dropping" thing doesn't really hold much water anyway. they were still currency, he was asking for buds in his trade.
Because you cannot take the offer for what it is at the time. I can offer 1000 keys on an unusual, but then decide to change my mind and use a Golden Frying Pan instead to pay for it. Because I use that, overpay has to be applied instead. You're arguing on the basis that they're worth much more on March 2nd, but it didn't sell until March 17th. That's the fault of the buyer and the seller on that. Not mine.
you completely misunderstand my argument. I'm not asking you to value the max's higher than they were at the time. i'm asking you to value his buds offer as it was at the time correctly at 110 keys and see that the sale makes no sense and has no place in pricing this unusual unless you find out that he added paypal or something.
Aaron said to price it at the time when it sold. That was March 17th. Not when it was offered.
I rather listen to a moderator than someone that's trying to bullying me over a suggestion.
let me try again. i am not telling you to value the max's any differently. forget about the loss of value thing, it was just something you said that was wrong to me but it's not even particularly relevant.
are you going to try to talk to the people involved to confirm this was the exact sale?
I'm currently at school at the moment, but I can try making attempts doing so.
they're both currently offline anyway. i just don't see any way that this could be valid. either he accepted 90 keys in maxs when he was offered 110 in buds before, and if he did, then the sale is an outlier. or, cash was added to the max's, in which case i would start reconsidering my position until proof of the new owners offers was found.
Well, I'm going to let the suggestion run it's course for the day and try to see if the offers are legitimate or not. If no valid proof is given to me, then I'm going to take it as invalidated evidence and base the proof that I see.
talked to xees, he said he added $100 to the max heads. that puts it at 140-150. currently checking through his offers.
the thing is that proof isn't always everything. you need to make a judgement about hats, because this price isn't solely a record of sale, it's an attempt to reflect value of an item, and i'm guessing you could offer him 150 right now and he'd pass.
I'm going to retract for the current moment. I don't normally base off of tier and I hate doing it, but Green Energy is normally below Massed Flies and G.E. is being priced for 160 to 190 at the moment. So. I'll let this play out for now.
The item sold immediately after it became tradable, and based on offers it looks like a quicksale.
Also the sale is outdated.
Sale actually isn't outdated. I probably grabbed the wrong trade on accident. It sold about 4 weeks ago.
Edit: Here's the link for you. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24395339