Suggestion: Scorching Flames Master's Yellow Belt at 130–150 keys

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~1275 keys

scorch

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Another belt being priced. Another boredom day hits me.

So many mini-suggestions I have to do for one suggestion, huh?

#LateNightSuggestions #TooSpoopyFlames

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The Sales

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25270330 - Sold for 14 Buds (133 Keys)

Key Buyout Constraint: 130 Keys

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198050145901?time=1427353200

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198050145901?time=1427526000

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25619436 - Sold for 150 Keys.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198044501480?time=1428476400

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198044501480?time=1428562800

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Two pure sales. Other sales are either bulks or needs this suggestion to be priced, because it is either outdated or unpriced.

I've been given a deposit of 50 keys for my Scorching Yellowbelt, and have the agreement of him finishing a payment of 170 on May 3rd.

> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25662591

He gave me 57 / 170 , 50 of which are unrefundable.

> User: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198073616197

I don't mind you being transparent about it, but that is a very unreliable way of confirming a 170 key offer.

Best of luck to you, but I don't really see that much of valid proof.

I'm trying to upload the screenshots to prove it. All the keys can't be put in a screenshot with his name even if I zoom out ;~;

>> Here is a screenie of the 57 keys / 170. http://i.imgur.com/qkCIiwF.jpg

He's offline right now, but once he gets on I can provide more valid proof.

I've done a few of these kinds sales, and have proven it in the past.

I mean. I can stand corrected once the transaction goes through fully and correct the range for you.

Your sale right now is only processing and won't be completed for nearly a month from now.

I'm not doubting your ability at all. I'm just saying that's not really much of legitimate evidence.

As I said, once he's online, he can confirm the agreement. Therefore making this suggestion invalid. I'm just providing counterproof.

So therefore, this suggestion can be kept open so that I actually have a chance to provide evidence.

Either that, or you can resuggest if your sales goes through completely.

^ This. I'm happy to resuggest, once your sale goes through completely. Just contact me (once it happens) and I'll happily do it for you.

And I want to point out some other sales:

Sold for about 130 Keys:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198062565400?time=1421913600

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198062565400?time=1422000000

Roughly 140 Keys: (Bulk sale, so it is invalid regardless.)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198151048590?time=1426143600

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198151048590?time=1426230000

Or we could just keep this suggestion open, as in the past if there are no other sales, I remember Polar saying that we could keep it open to see if another sale occurs. Seeing as I'm providing at least with my word that I have an agreement. That I can prove tomorrow.

Yet, I just pointed out two more pieces of evidences that points more towards my range.

Evidence that I can easily glance over and leave out, because it would just clutter up space and not really needed.

I can also easily point out that there have been even more sales that you haven't posted.

Unless they have been for unpriced hats, bulk sales, or the hat is duplicated alone, I haven't seen another sale.

From a minute of digging I can see another sale, if I dig more I'm sure I can find more clean sales. They just require minis. Either go back and look at those sales, or wait for the sale I plan to provide. Either way, I was just providing counter proof to show that this suggestion isn't completely accurate.

The only sale that requires mini is the Cloudy Moon Charmer's and I'm certain that's facing a drop next.

If that is the case, why isn't it included?

Furthermore, the newest 130 key you bring up isn't in pure. Its in stuff, that you didn't think to mention? You are supposed to state the trade, saying ~130 keys is not accurate as well as the fact that it is an old sale (about 2 months).

From what I'm gathering, this hat is the quite lower than the other two 210+ sales. 150, 220, 230.

This hat is considered an outlier, especially with the attachment of other sales that don't represent past 150.

Sure, it can be included in the proof, but there is enough evidence to show it doesn't go higher than 150.

And if anything, it would have to apply it towards the Cloudy Moon. Not the other way around.

It wouldn't be considered an outlier with another sale.

Which would show that we need to wait for another one. And the fact that it wasn't mentioned originally goes to show that you can't cherry pick what trades you want to provide. But must provide all that you can fine, and state what was traded / if invalid why. Furthermore, that could prove that 130 key sale as an outlier.

Again. I just proved two sales attached to this range. You're the one persisting about it.

Besides, the way the Scorching sale even happen went towards the Charmer's, not towards the Belt.

So, I would have to suggest towards the Charmer's anyways.

And as I said the first sale is invalid not only because you didn't say what was traded but because it is old. AND you wouldn't have provided that unless I had persisted. The Charmer's isnt the only sale, there are more.

I will wait to discuss this with Polar.

Mmmm. May 3 would be 16 days from now and my cap is usually 14 days for leaving suggestions up.... But we do have a few suggestions that old, so I'll think about it. Certainly won't be kept up past that. There are enough on the market that we might even get another sale or two in the meantime.

I've sold my Clean Scorching Yellow Belt for 150 keys + 4 earbuds (20 keys), 2 days after has touched the market. I totally dissagre with this suggestion, looks more like a quicksell price

Post:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25619436#latest

My backpack after trade:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198044501480?time=1428562800

His backpack after trade:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198045285553?time=1428562800

If anything, I can switch the range to 130 to 170, since that 130 didn't sell for fast.

The only way I can rule 130 out is if the high end of the range sold a bit more than just 170. Like 200 or so.

After seeing this as being a mini, I have to say.

130, didn't even sale at 130 keys. It sold for 14 buds, at a time when buds were really low, and before the key conversion. As pointed out by the one.

At the time that would have been like 98 keys which is most definitely an outlier. And there's no rush on this suggestion, I mean I can see there's a possible 170 key sale. If it sold for 150, and 170. And you're completely ignoring unusual sales, because you don't want to put in the work of minis and such.

I would avoid using the first sale. The sale occured on March 26th, whe buds were very low and just a few days before the convertion to keys that boosted the economy. Right now, I feel this hat would sell very quickly at 130 keys.

Look at the comments a bit earlier and I pointed out two sales that were floating around in the range.

I would kind of agree that it would sell very easily for 130 keys, but the market is currently being readjusted.

Look i agree with the 150 keys sale as well, very fair proof, but the 130 key sale was at a very critical point. I don't think it need to be included in the price suggestion. The only real updated sale after the the market changed is the 150 sale.

Feels very low . I own one indeed , but right now no 1 is going for less than 200 , especially not 130-150 .

some proofs :

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25033395 got offered 120 keys pure + 5 buds when buds were like 5-6 keys . lets say each one is 5 , so totaly 145 keys pure . if each bud would be 6 , then 150 pure . he declined it . also got offered clean purple energy modest pile of hat which is at least 160 + 2 buds pure which is 170 . offers for this higher than ur suggested price .

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25611728 got offered 140 pure + 3 buds 1 week ago , when buds were 5-6 . 155-158 pure keys . above ur price suggestion

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24896306 got offered scorching cowl and bud . cowl at least 160-170 . plus bud , above ur price suggestion . with overpay for every unusual offer , still higher than price suggestion . mid range of ur suggestion is 140 , which seems to be very low considering offers clean belts got on outpost . Iam not doing this cause i own a scorching belt as well , jewlander lowered the price of the scorching pencil pusher which was totally fine with me . but this seems to be very low . hope i helped a bit .

yeah I would have to say this suggestion is a bit low tbh.

Before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198070018257?time=1428822000

After: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198070018257?time=1428908400

Sold for 122 keys + Voodoo juju (2 keys) + 135 in unusuals. So about 250 keys in total.

Hope this helped ^^

Dam this is headshot , if you know what i mean .

Actually, half of the hats stated are outdated and will require mini suggestions. I already proposed this hat will be resuggested already to 130 to 170, but I highly doubt this goes for much higher. This seems to be an outlier, compared to the majority of sales.

One sale doesn't dictate where the market leans. I have about five sells that lands right in this range.