Suggestion: Death at Dusk Hong Kong Cone at 260–360 keys

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~785 keys

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Wolfi pointed this out in the Team Captain suggestion and this needs a lowering. I don't know who is trying to base overinflation with this hat, but you guys need to stop doing that shit. It's getting old.

#WolfiRequest #LateNightSuggestion

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The Sales

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24833277 - Sold for 27 Buds (324) + 11 Keys + Spec KS Aussie Black Box (25)

324 + 25 + 11 = 360 Keys.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198034401101?time=1424073600

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198034401101?time=1424160000

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25405595 - Sold for Roughly 260 Keys.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198012642802?time=1429167600

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198012642802?time=1429254000

(See below for the explaination of this lovely mess of a trade.)

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The second sale needs explaining:

After receiving the pure for it, she went immediately on a spending spree and bought things. When I asked this specific user for the transaction history, she would not give me the transaction and rambled on (provided in the screenshots below) about various things. She would only clarified it sold for roughly 250 to 300 keys for a "quick sale" and not back it up at all. So, I went and searched up all of the items involved and this is what I found:

Grenade + Dixie = 51 Keys. (Pure, no overpay)

Darkblaze = 25 Keys. (QS, Pure, no overpay)

Pro KS Scatter = 50 Keys. (45) (Unable to determine, taking overpay)

Sunbeams Bucketroo = Spec KS Aussie Frontier w/ Parts (18.5) + Spec KS Festive Sniper (15) + Bill's Hat (2.5) (36) (Taking overpay)

Aussie Wrench (traded in) (25) (Taking overpay)

Australium Axe = 8 Keys (Pure, no overpay.)

36 + 25 + 50 = 111 * 0.9 = 99.9 + 51 + 25 + 8 = 183.9

36 + 25 = 61 * 0.9 = 54.9 + 50 + 51 + 25 + 8 = 188.9

Remaining in her inventory:

45 Keys

Max Head (27)

184 + 45 + 27 = 256 > 260 Keys.

189 + 45 + 27 = 261 > 260 Keys.

Taking 260 for this sale.

Chatlog:

- http://gyazo.com/470126e380d2dd73cddeff53c0cba993

- http://gyazo.com/53e0272175d8da42113d93977cff9fec

Supportive sales can show this isn't an outlier, despite of the seller trying to say it was a quick sale.

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Supportive Sales:

- Roughly around 250 to 300 here.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198068910184?time=1426489200

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198068910184?time=1426575600

- Roughly around 300~350 with inflated. (Possibly 250~300 after deflation.)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198022636756?time=1424764800

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198022636756?time=1425110400

- Roughly around 300 with this sale.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25105008 -> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25618884

(These cannot be used because either one to all of the unusuals involved are either outdated (which has inflation to it) or unpriced with no way of pricing.)

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Wolfi pointed out it isn't worth 552 keys. So, I'm going to fix this and put it where it needs to be. 260 to 360 keys.

You can chew me out for the long explanation of that sale, but that seller was the one refusing to clarify her transaction.

If you want, here are two unusuals I was offered:

Ghastly Ghosts Jr. Killer's Exclusive ( http://i.imgur.com/mNbuExg.png ), which sold for Haunted Ghosts Team Captain (225 Keys), Sunbeams Le Party Phantom (86-100 Keys), and 1 Bud (5 Keys). His bp is here: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198106416256?time=1429945200

I was also offered a Frostbite Team Captain on my trade by Jabber ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25621334#latest ), the price of which you are familiar with.

Offers =/= Actual Sales.

hey that was my trade. my team captain was priced at 360 keys at the time of the trade. thanks

I still feel like some mini's for the outdated/unpriced sales would be needed, as just stating the unusuals used in other sales are "inflated" doesn't provide enough information.

Wobim Rilliam's bp, for example, only drops roughly $130, which suggests he got items around $950 for his hong kong (around 475 Keys; still lower than 550 Keys, but not 250-300 low).

1) The Robins--I'm unable to fully complete the minis on them. I have to guess on what that Misty and two others would go for.

2) Your trade needs minis for the minis and a good portion of them doesn't even have valid sales with them.

3) I might be undervaluing the Ground Control a bit, but still--a mini can't be provided. Both ends are still satisified.

The ground control doesn't have many sales, I agree, but I know of at least one that happened with the practitioner: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25630374 That one sold for a gifted Kill-a-Watt Crones (120 keys, but prob lower)

I also received both the Ground Control and the Practitioner for a gifted Purple Energy Glasgow Helm (190 keys, again prob lower) ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25558922#latest , http://i.imgur.com/VmpJEwn.png)

There are also 2 Flies Hive Minders on the market (one for 300, another for 320)

Also the issue with Wobim Rilliam's sale was never addressed.

Yet, the Hive Minder that you bought it from had a buyout of 20 buds or 200 keys at the time.

I do agree the Hive Minder does need an update. I received the Hive Minder and the Bicorne (which is roughly 40-60 keys despite what I put it up for originally, has a C/O of 52 keys on Outpost) for the Harvest AA before the bp.tf update hit.

With that in mind, even if you went with its price before bp.tf's update, my trade would be closer to 400 Keys at least, rather than 300 keys like is suggested. I have no issues with your first sale, just the second sale seems like an outlier with my trade and Wobin Rilliam's trade.

Actually, that and the Bicorne was traded for a Harvest Moon Authority, which just got priced for 228.

So, if anything... that Hive Minder is going down in price.

Yea at the time the harvest moon was around 240 Keys, and the Hive Minder was around 175 Keys. Both were outdated at the time, although the AA isn't any longer. Even with that in mind, the two unpriced hats and the engie hat wouldn't total only a little over 100 keys.

I was looking through Wobin Rilliam's bp through the links you provided:

http://backpack.tf/item/1213085173 (Brainiac)

http://backpack.tf/item/1339070843

http://backpack.tf/item/281590241

http://backpack.tf/item/3317716506

http://backpack.tf/item/464122170

Those look like all the items that he received from Taygete for his cone.

153 + 20 + 53.5 + 148 + 46.5 = 421 Keys

421 * 0.9 = 378.9 Keys

You're basing off of inflated prices. I'm certain I can knock that Kabuto over and put it towards the upper end of the range alone.

I also seem to notice he gained some other unusuals that don't have histories tied to Taygete in between those two links. I believe he may have gotten other unusuals in the trade with Taygete, but bp.tf wasn't able to pick up on it before he traded them away. The only reason I say this is because his inventory value only fluctuates $150 in between the two links. At most it would only be around 50 Keys difference though.

That's why it is quite hard to determine an exact price, because I'm uncertain if they went for the said items or not.

Just sold my cone, could use my sale (Hearts Modest, Haunted Ghosts Flamenco, Circling Hearts Hound Dog, Cloud 9 Swagman's Swatter).

I already see two outdated hats and the other two are about 80 in unusuals.

Flamenco just got updated to 150 Keys

I am the buyer of this one. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25405595

I actually paid 225 keys in pure + Spe Aussie Wrench(25 keys) + Strange Ullapool Caber (4 keys)

29*0.9=26

251 keys only, although it is close to your range, it was a quick sold.

This going to be accepted?