Suggestion: Earbuds at 5–6 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25621065 (Created when buds were still at a low price, at least one was bought. Missing buds from last page of them. Proof:

http://imgur.com/F28Wdb0 )

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25709474 (At least 1. Proof: http://imgur.com/hQEdgic )

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25532967 (Created when buds were worth more than 6 keys, but still sold for 6 keys. Despite old age, AT LEAST 1 was sold. Proof:

http://imgur.com/zpe4K4F )

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21767448 (Despite old age, he sold several at 6 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25711033 (1 week old. Despite price and age, AT LEAST 1 was sold.)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25751211 (Sold all 3 in 5 days. Proof: http://imgur.com/sEIIeED )

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25722237 (Sold at least 1. Proof: http://imgur.com/lgZp3Rd )

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25182077 (At least 1 or 10 sold, despite old age. Recently, when keys were 5-5.5 keys, someone traded the seller. Proof:

http://imgur.com/TQl30V2 )

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25701083 (At least 1 sold, judging by the bookmark, the amount of views, and the 1 bud he's missing on page 2. Proof:

http://imgur.com/YDictfO )

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25650686 (Created when buds were still at a low price. Notice how the buds are un-named in the trade. Then, look at the proof:

http://imgur.com/PyJrN6e )

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25671051 (Sold at least 1 pair, as 8 buds are featured in the trade, but there are 7 in his backpack. His backpack:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/44683 )

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25777473 (Proof: http://imgur.com/UIajuuq)

Buyers @ 6+ keys:

(NOTE: There was a very minimal amount of pages on Outpost that had traders wanting buds for keys versus buds for unusuals.)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25762690

6 key "buyer" has no keys and has been offline for 4 days.

This suggestion reflects the market correctly imo http://backpack.tf/vote/id/553bee22b88d8801348b456e

A quick look @ buyers...looks hard to buy any below 5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25712232 - Has had 13 dumped on him by the look of it :)

4 Keys 15 Ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25644481 - Bot, doesn't have any buds

4 Keys 14 Ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25775292 - Has none

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25766120 - Has none

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25567854 - Has none

4 Keys 12 Ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25623490

4 Keys 10 Ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24898478

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25666838

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25594997

4 Keys 8 Ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23776090

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25782826

4 Keys 7 Ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25788923

4 Keys 6 Ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25697611

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23476735

4 Keys 5 Ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23973970

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25565362

4 Keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25583423

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25557667

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25695507

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24982870

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19530850

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25699658

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24985094

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25742246

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25216634

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24961887

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25798701

I think you have been very selective with your "proof" to support what you want to happen.

Also I have been flipping buds a lot for the last few weeks but the range has really tightened and it's not worth the effort now. Below 5 is quicksell and above 5 is slooooooow sell in my recent experience. Got the profit I needed to get an aussie sticky launcher though :)

Sorry dude but it's a big downvote from me, suggestion does not reflect the reality of the current bud market.

So, you claim that my proof is false (judging by the quotation marks) and go on to say I've been very selective. That's kind of hypocritical considering you, yourself had to go get specific trades to support your cause? (I respect the fact you provided evidence, however.) Here's some buyers for more than 5 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25549933

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25797544 (Calculated)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25766865

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25654082

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25789118

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25708590

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25785877

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25764145

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25754583

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25759480

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25630421 (Bought 18)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25672321

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25749389

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25710196

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25745892

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25735393 (Bought 1)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25549933 <= Has comments like "dude, when you run out of keys stop bumping your trade."

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25797544 (Calculated) <= 2 Keys 2 items?? LOL.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25766865 <= Not buying for more than 5 keys + untradeable keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25654082 <= Has 3 keys, no csgo keys and no buds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25789118 <= Bought one, now not buying

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25708590 <= Not buying for more than 5 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25785877 <= Not buying for more than 5 keys + untradeable keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25764145 <= Not buying for more than 5 keys + last online 4 days ago + only 7 keys stock

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25754583 <= Buying below 5 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25759480 <= Last bumped 5 days ago + untradeable keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25630421 <= Last bumped 5 days ago + last online 3 days ago + no keys + Not buying for more than 5 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25672321 <= Not buying for more than 5 keys + last bumped 6 days ago + 6 keys stock

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25749389 <= Not buying for more than 5 keys + last bumped 6 days ago + 3 keys stock

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25710196 <= Not buying for more than 5 keys + last bumped 6 days ago + 4 keys stock

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25745892 <= Not buying for more than 5 keys + last bumped/online 6 days ago + lots of keys but is an obvious alt

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25735393 <= Not buying for more than 5 keys + last bumped 6 days ago + 0 keys stock

Nice try though, lots of links = lots of proof right?!

Also why have a buying post when you could just go down the first couple of pages of backpack classifieds buying at that price?

Here's the value, I took a screenshot: http://imgur.com/8WRWvKh

Also, there's no amount of evidence that can battle the fact that someone bought 18 buds for 5 keys in a short period of time.

And the keys within that trade might be untradeable at the moment, but they still want to buy earbuds for 5 keys.

And yes, lots of links means lots of proof.

Also, the guy who claimed is buying below 5 keys, he's 2 ref away from buying it at 5 keys.

Also, wouldn't the lack of keys within their backpacks prove that they have bought buds? They need the keys to open the trade.

The point I'm making is that all your buyers are out of date. If I got a bud now and went on outpost looking for a buyer to sell them to, I would be very, very lucky to successfully get more than 5 keys for them. Your buyer that bought 18 was last online over 3 days ago, so that is the shortest time ago any of them could have been bought.

Just for fun check this one

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25707378

Yes, it's me, buying @ 5 keys 1 ref a week ago. Buying at that price now is, to put it nicely, rather charitable.

''2 Keys 2 items LOL''

*Facepalm*

no idea why people are downvoting you so hard. perhaps they hate the truth, which is that all these "sold at 6+" and "buyers above 5" are irrelevant cause they're old or not buying/selling any more.

"Honestly, the main problem is that you used the word "Unsolds" at 5, instead of sellers. That's why you are taking so much heat." - Guy in the comments.

~~Excuse me, but where the fuck is the difference between the word unsold and selllers besides the god damn spelling?~~

Didn't see that comment, gonna go blow up on him.

Correct counter proof but i don't know why there are so many dislike. I give u a "like"

Well, I'm coming off the fence and saying this suggestion is just a manipulation effort. And the suggester is getting his mates and other #savethebuds types to down vote any dissenting views.

Manipulation? I own a total of 0 buds, and I've owned a total of 0 buds. I have 0 friends who are/have been a part of the #savethebuds moment. I've had 0 friends who were in the #savethebuds movement. Nice "constructive criticism!"

Correction: I own 1 singular bud now. It's because I bought some keys with my savings.

Thanks for the kind words :)

"Selective about your proof"

Are you serious? Buyers will always be buying for less than the normal price is, that is not proper counter-proof.

made 2 times a suggestion with enough evidence provided , both times they took it down , cause they said that bullshit about selective proof. Some people simply dont want the buds go up. Thats all..

Are you serious? You tried to raise buds with fucking sellers, not sales.

yes im fuckin serious in the second one i had sales next to the sellers but it didnt make any difference to some of you , did it?

Did you even read what people were saying in the suggestion? Sure you have about 10 sales that may not even have happened, but you were trying to completely diminish the fact that 5.25-5.5 were not possible anymore. What I mean by that is 5.25-5.5 were quickselling fast.

Honestly, the main problem is that you used the word "Unsolds" at 5, instead of sellers. That's why you are taking so much heat.

Excuse me, but where the fuck is the difference between the word unsold and selllers besides the god damn spelling?

No need to be rude.

People in other suggestions are talking like 5 keys won't even sell, but this guy is trying to raise it.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25742058 (Sold at least one, as trade shows 4 buds. Proof: http://imgur.com/qBPeVZ5 )

The screen shot is hilarious.

Sellers. Still. Don't. Help. Raise. A. Price. That plus A lot of old sales. Downvote.

I'm trying to even things out for the both of us, calm down.

You salty dog get a drink of water

Please just cut down the spaces between lines for my eyes. But early impressions are good.

Fixing that right now. Sorry, this looked a lot better in notepad.

Don't worry about it.

Please Remove all the spaces between links, they are unnecessary.

Oops, did the wrong thing. Sorry guys.

Now it's fixed. Sorry!

Why would you have unsolds below the price you're trying to raise?

Unsolds for low end, sales for high end.

Unsolds kinda make it look like you countered yourself.

it's highly possible your solds are outlier due to classies and unsolds.

downvote, no hate/anger/whatever ^_^

Classifieds/SCM is pretty hard counter proof against this

SCM is not a valid form of proof.

SCM is supporting proof. It can be used to show something is to high if it's easy to buy alot on SCM for lower.

Either way, 4 pages of classifieds for far less than 5.5 keys, 6 is way to high.

Also, once things are sold in classifieds, they disappear.

I think he meant sellers for lower/current price.

I find it funny how people get so angry over a suggestion on a virtual item in a video game. I'm not here to try to anger anyone; I'm just making a suggestion.

"Classifieds/SCM is pretty hard counter proof against this" is mad? How? He was just saying that the suggestion was not really viable based on the large amount of opposing proof.

Actually that was just saying that a lot of the sales are old and that sellers don't raise a price, as well as bringing up a pet peeve of mind when people refer to me/others using the clantag/part in parentheses at the end. Not anger. In addition that is not what you replied to.

How can you identify anger from a text comment...

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25762886 (5 keys 2 ref, 2 sold rest unsold)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25788322 (5 keys 1 unsold)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13168732 (5 keys 7 unsold)

Downvote for now.

That's alright. I also really appreciate the fact you provide proof yourself!

"how can you identify anger from a text comment"

you're right language cannot convey any emotion until it's verbalised, gg literature/newspapers/essentially all non-technical writing

So apparently supplying counter proof is a new form of anger

Eh, Harry's first comment had swearing involved, that points the anger out. He edited it though.

Yeah, I overblew the reaction to a minor pet peeve there. Apologies again.

Should've learned from when I made my original suggestion for buds that this more than likely not going to be accepted (which is okay. I don't care an awful lot.) I kinda wasted 4 or so hours of my time, and some of your guys' time. However, I thank the people making constructive comments or even comments in the first place; I appreciate it greatly. I love to hear the community's opinion. It intrigues me.

Eh, at least he's trying to do a proper suggestion, don't discourage him man.

Meh. I could really care less if anyone bans me.

Past suggestions mean nothing. Have you done anything you weren't proud of in the past. I would bet on yes.

We all have and i still keep a few locked in the basement bwahahahah!!!!!

suggester closed most of his last ones... and he's trying and has some proof :|

UPVOTED!!! Proof is better than most i have seen posted here in a long time. HAPPY!

you're high, please just stop.

http://backpack.tf/rules

dont just say upvoted without even checking the proof and market.

I did, so don't assume you know what i was doing here thank you! Now move on! Don't forget to click the disliked button.

I'm surprised you're not new here.

What are you babbling on about? You can earn the negs all by yourself. Plz troll to someone else as you stated before"please just stop.

http://backpack.tf/rules".

You just like to hear yourself ramble on! No one cares what you think, hate somewhere else. This kid made a great effort and you clearly hate that he did and now you seem to be trolling and what looks to be neg rep everyone. F*cking trolls nowadays.

Did you actually check the proof though? And did you read your comment?

"UPVOTED!!! PROOF IS BETTER THAN MOST I HAVE SEEN HERE POSTED IN A LONG TIME. HAPPY!"

The proof is all less than 2 weeks old (when the 5.25-5.5 key suggestion was created) and have proof of sales. I don't see anything wrong with it.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong w/ your evidence, I'm saying that he's making a fool of himself for calling it the best proof in the site in a while. Also, the first 3 pages of the Classifieds are full of sells at 5.1 keys and under. While it can't be used as main proof, it does show a small glimpse of the market, so take note of that.

currently 5 pages of sellers < 6 keys, we'll see how this goes

So now you are trying to control me and not be allowed to voice my opinion! Is this kid for real? Last i checked this was a public site for open voting and open thoughts that pertain to the vote?

comments on suggestions are supposed to be about the proof, not spamming "UPVOTE IZ GUD PR00F MY BP RAISE" or some shit like that. your original comment was pretty much spam, dont hate :P

3 Reason why im upvoting:

1. Good proof.

2. I'm tired to make a suggestion to save the earbuds. (Failed 1 time).

3. Keys with high price, and Earbuds too would be very good.

Thanks! I appreciate your contribution.

I'm glad to see the effort you put in this! All the spam lately has been horrible, keep up the great work.

IF YOU WILL MAKE IT,

I WILL HUG YOU SO HARD

Up vote. One of the best suggestions of Earbuds.

Here's another little piece of evidence, curtsy of Kai_D

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25775207#latest

You can use my OP for more proof. I've been selling buds for 6 keys pretty frequently. Proof of selling 4 buds @ 6 keys just today => http://postimg.org/image/y3ic8a3q7/

Thanks you very much!

FINALLY THIS I CAN UPVOTE

good price sellect and prof i think.

Ev, I want to give you free buds,

I don't know why.

How much time it will take?

I appreciate your generosity, but you really don't have to.

Also, this will keep going until an admin approves.

God, the comments in here are awful. Seriously guys, handle this maturely.

Do not upvote this just because you want "buds to raise!!". Look at the evidence and make your input. There's one thing that kills the economy even more then anything and it's biased opinions.

Are you saying I made a bad suggestion?

Not at all, it's pretty well made honestly. It's just the comments some people are making are just awful.

Good luck.

Eh, what the heck, I'll help.

Quicksales at 5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25800545

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25789986

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25794227

Sales at 6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25789218

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25799789

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25754779

Not many sales that I could find.

Thanks you for providing evidence.

Easy downvote

U start ur suggestion by countering yourself. Listing Unsolds at 5-5.5 keys

Unsolds at 5-5.5 keys: (Thanks Offended Republican for some of the links!)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25791001

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25718192

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25793140

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25793859

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25788322

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25762886

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25787265

All those sales of 6 keys are impossible if there are unsold below 6 keys. This is illogical.

Ur 6 keys sales are actually useless because u can't simply determine the seller sell for 6 keys by stating their earbud are not in their bp

Sales of 6 keys are because of the seller sell their earbud to quickbuyers or buy unusual. This makes an illusion earbud can sell for 6 keys.

The unsolds are to show as to why there is a range.

I don't really think u can sell for 6 keys when u can't sell for 5 keys. I am personally selling earbud for 5 keys for half of the day. I can only sell one of them. 6 keys is impossible.

Link if u needed: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25623490#latest

7 bud in my bp but only 1 sold for 5 keys in 12 hours.

6 keys? I don't think people can sell that

You can use my OP for more proof. I've been selling buds for 6 keys pretty frequently. Proof of selling 4 buds @ 6 keys just today => http://postimg.org/image/y3ic8a3q7/

Quote from SQ.

outliner? Trust me or not 1 link can't save ur suggestion. If he can sell for 6 keys, I should sell all my buds for 5 keys within 1 day but this is not what happened

2 more proofs of selling buds for 6 keys within the week. Pic => http://postimg.org/image/iaod6u12r/ There will always be people undercutting to make a quick-trade, but I have been selling them for 6 keys pretty frequently all week. Also have some trade offers I didn't accept in time from people also paying 6 keys.

Sorry i didn't see the date of the transaction. When i see the date, I found out that the proof is invalid. One is sold at 18 Apr and which is like 1 week before and the other one is like 5 days ago. However, market changes very fast. U can't use old sales as proof

The fact that 1 or 2 people are making sales @ 6 does not represent the entire market. There are simply way too many available at 5.5 or less, and the supporting comments/upvotes are being done blindly because of the #savethebuds mentality of the people who lost money over earbuds dropping. They've gone even under 5 keys on the SCM right now. I can find 5 pages of earbuds on classifieds alone @ 5 flat. 5 is not a 'quicksell'.

"1 or 2 people are making sales @ 6"

Have you looked at my proof, and Victoria's, and Kai_D's?

Buds aren't currency

Never said they were. Feel free to downvote again

Why are u saying that? When you go to backpack.tf , you see 3 items : Refined Metal, Key and Earbud. What the **** are that 3 items? CURRENCY, including Earbud.

Technically its an INFORMAL currency

It isn't currency go look at the forum

Just cause backpack.tf doesn't recognize it as a currency, doesn't mean it isn't a currency.

And why it's right next to Ref and Key?

Doesn't mean its a currency

They technically are, they're just not recognized as backpack.tf as a currency.

Technically max and bills are currency then, right?

Informal, or in other words, uncommon. Like I've seen HOUWARS and Max's traded often for unusuals, but they haven't been recognized as currencies.

I didn't find any buyers at 5, I didn't browse through dozens of pages but from what I read there and my own experience this suggestion doesn't reflect the reality, downvote.

buyers at 5 aren't necessary

i am sry bro i have to down vote cause look how many ppl are selling for between 4-5 keys = http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Earbuds

hmmm. reasonable, here have another vote

People like this say messed up shit, and I'm the one that gets warned for saying something as harmless as, "downvotin this">?????????

Well this and a comment that just says "downvote this" doesn't contribute to the suggestion, so what do you expect?

Eh, I'm quite uneasy about this, there are PLENTY of people selling for 5 or even less. I'm not gonna vote on this one.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/245782053

first link in outpost is a bot that sells for 5 keys. All the proof I wanted to copy and paste. Classifieds was filled with 4.8-5 key buds at the time of this post. The amount of cherry picking here is outrageous. Not claiming that you're manipulating, but clearly not looking very hard for the 4-5 key sales. Downvote

ok outpost and waht backpack.tf sellers 4,5 key -_-

Regarding my trade: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25601043

- I sold 10 buds previously for 52 keys to one guy in 1 transaction

- 2 days ago sold 1 for 5 keys + 9 ref

- Sold 2 buds for 6 keys each

- Sold 1 for 7 keys (trade.tf good deal, lol)

So, the average would be ~ 5.2 - 5.3. Invalid. Sorry.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25811485

Guys Selling at 4 Keys + 14 ref

3 Sold in 8 Hours.

There are people buying higher than that. Look around the chat. However, I appreciate the fact you're contributing and not saying: "ur dum!!11!eleven" like some people.

there is bot selling for 4,82 keys : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25644481

How many has it sold? How many has it bought? Because there may are buyers paying more than that. Look around the chat. I appreciate the fact you're contributing evidence!

Earbud prices can't be more than the b/o's on classifieds, and thats that. As much as I want them to rise, they seem to be dropping even more on classifieds due to people getting the hell out of tf2. Sorry

My 2 cents on your proof:

I am only touching your proof where you have Seller @ 6 keys plus.

PS: Last Price change was 14 days ago, approx.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25789351 Trade closed on 26th April 9.19 pm. Another trade re-opened on 26th April 11.07 pm. Buds with same original ids. Hence, NO SALE.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25750983 Trying to sell for past 8 days - another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25601043 - I have no clue how you made the deduction that he sold many at 6 keys in your original comments. If you meant trade history then the guy with the recent history also is trying to sell them for 6 keys. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25790965 - SOLD for 5 keys NOT 6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25789218 -- Has same 10 buds in stock, trying to sell for 6 keys 10 ref since he last closed his trade. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25709297 7 keys seller. Plenty available from 4.89 to 5 keys on classifieds. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25412346 Damn, trying to sell from the 19th March. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25622482 7 keys seller. Plenty available from 4.89 to 5 keys on classifieds. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25781060 Not sold for keys but an unsual. Here is the trader http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/62661. In all his trades and comments he values buds at 5 keys. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25783689 Still trying, it's only been 3 days. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25744805 Still trying, it's only been 8 days. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25769125 Still trying, it's only been 5 days. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25796882 Still trying, it's only been 2 days. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25633466 7 keys Still trying, it's only been 20 days. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25796882 Still trying, it's only been 2 days. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25776944 7 keys Still trying, it's only been 4 days. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25756625 6 keys, Still trying, it's only been 7 days. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25684384 7 keys, and still want over payment, it's only been 15 days. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25788143 8 keys , genius another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25796435 Earbud sold for 2 keys I guess, or buy an ear bud and get a BMOC, Festive Rocket and festive shotgun free another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25760600 SOld at 5 keys each not 6 keys, amount of keys in backpack equate to 5 keys each. another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25690157 Bought an unsual Modest Pile of Hat( http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/786039 ) and not a key transaction another Fail

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25797528 Sold for 6 keys in items and not keys.http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198081400485?time=1430118000 another Fail

This is a terrible proof to prove 6 keys. Please see my next comment for analysis on your 6 key sales.

Dude seriously first few links and I don't even want to click on your 6 keys links. I am sorry to say but other then 5 keys in the range, 6 keys is a terrible terrible idea.

The space between your links is a terrible idea you should've fixed that

Your lack of contributing to the discussion is a terrible idea, you should fix that.

upvote :D gaben is with buds this time

So do you have any actual reason why you upvoted or did you just upvote because you own a pair and want them to raise?

You can find plenty of buds on outpost below 5 keys. First page is proof of that and second page has up to like 1/3 filled below 5. Rest is 5 keys. Edit: Also SCM has them at 12.20 as of now. If we use bp's converter that's 5.06 keys.

I find it kind of funny how counter proof arguments have been getting disliked. So I know what to expect with this one ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

As much as I'd love for buds to come back to their former glory, they just won't. If this suggestion passes you'll see a small burst of hype like it happened a while ago, only to go back to their current price.

Someone remember when bills were also currency? Yeah look at where they are now. They'll never go back to 8 keys.

I honestly could see this range. I did recently sell one for I think, 5 keys 13 ref? It's not that uncommon to find people above 5 keys, like everyone keeps saying.

idk wether to upvote this one or Harry's... What do you think, Eve? Is he also making a valid suggestion?

http://prntscr.com/6z8670

sold for 6

This is clearly not going to pass and the only people who are upvoting are people who all own unusuals and buds and want a quick buck, or have no clue what they're talking about. I'm closing this down. Harry's suggestion is miles better, and his chat isn't filled with cancerous comments. I would like to thank troublemaker for commenting and being honest, along with everyone else.

Or not. Because this library internet sucks. I'll be closing this when I get home.