Suggestion: Steaming Soldier's Stash at 40 keys

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~202 keys

steaming

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this is the one:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25770242 sold for this harvest tam.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25782445 sellers trade

the price for it was accepted 2 months ago so I don't consider it outdated.

no mini required

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54eee324b88d88be598b4829

45 keys * 0.9 overpay =40.5 rounding down to 40

note: the same offer was rejected from several other steaming stashes sellers making it a close trade.

edit:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25586392

sold for

Fire Horns/Villainous Violet Prof Rocket Launcher Kit + 9 keys pure + some ref the kit sell for 24-50 euro on market making this sell 20-25 keys. obviously uotlier i am consider this a quicksell so I am not using it according to bp.tf rules for quicksells/outliers.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25726146

quicksold to bipolar for unknown price.

theres been more than just one recent sale

I would love feedback on that can you track any?I am not premium

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25726146

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25586392

I put them on the notes but I cant use them as I cant tell what they trade for in the second link and the first link I cant price the kit objectively nevertheless thanks for the feedback

You can price the kit, just use SCM.

scm sell are usually low tier effects I ll give it a try though.it seems like a quicksell to be honest he could have get the tam if he waited enough.

http://backpack.tf/item/1397828670 3 sales

http://backpack.tf/item/903130476 1 Sale

thanks for the feedback but I cant track what they trade them for'

use item histories/backpack histories and do some investigating?

I did it feel free to give it a try even counter if you are feeling so.investigating didn't help the time histories have a gap and they are hard to track what items where traded away.I am sure prof.snuggie tried too already.

it seems to me like if there were other sales then you can't suggest a 25% price bump from the one sale you did price. how do you know *it's* not the outlier?

the previous price is still not that old. I don't think it makes sense to reprice if you don't have data on the other sale. keeping price as is is safest.

i dont think its weird steaming stash was always at 40-50 keys range since the beginning of time.the previous suggestion that got accepted though that was a bit weird for the miscs history price since it was priced after max heads which they drop recently probably the guys that trade for the max's didn't knew that they are not 40-50 keys anymore.Ihavent seen another guy accepting a max head for it since.you might wanna give it a look.maybe the fact that it is getting extinct from the market it is driving its price up.there is nono in classifieds and 3 I think in outpost or so. It does trade a lot but unfortunatly I cant track what everyone traded it their stash for the links are up for anyone interested to investigate more into them.thanks to prof and scrabington

ya I get what you're saying and I'm not an expert on unusual suggestions. just seems to me like not knowing the other sales means you can't be sure which sale is the real outlier.

max heads have been below 40 keys for a while. we shouldn't make assumptions on what traders know or think at the time. just the facts, right?

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Sale #1:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25271883 Sold for a Max's Severed Head with 6 keys

2.7 buds

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Sale #2:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25276667 Sold for a Level 1 Max's Severed Head with about 2 keys in sweets

38 x .9 - 2 x .9

Presumably offered

3 buds

Manipulators be hatin'

just pasting the previous suggestion for the content here

as you see the max at the time was at 38~ keys the price of the stash fluctate cause it was suggested in buds and buds failed so the price real price was never 27-33 keys hope that makes sense.

bp.tf said they will fix those issues but they didn't fix it for the stash.

this sell just adds to the need for the price to be fixed.

http://puu.sh/hvbIP/41af2daa9b.png

i find it interesting that a steaming stash is now in your new items. based on the history ( http://backpack.tf/item/452550417 ) i'm guessing it was on the steam market (or more likely an alt since the current_id changed) when you made this suggestion. i'm not saying you hid it away so as to not look biased while making this suggestion, but you do have to admit that some bias exists :)

steam market is where it was and it will be after I sell some stuff i reached my 420 euro limit again and I have to buy some keys to list the stash so i removed it for now.

is that an issue anyway?

I rejected the offer on the Harvest moon tam by the way.in my eyes its lower in comparsion to the stash in any way.

steam id changes every time you list anything in the market.

i did not notice that when i posted stuff on steam market, but i'll definitely take your word for it

it's not an issue except that it wasn't in your bp when you made the suggestion, you're changing the price by 25%+ based on one sale and the price is not really old enough to warrant such a big bump based on one sale.

you reject the other sale as an outlier even tho it's actually closer to the *current* price of the stash.

basically all i'm saying is if there are other sales, lets get at least one of them priced (someone with premium plz?) so that we can determine which of your 2 sales is the outlier.

38 x .9 - 2 x .9 it was suggested at 35-38 keys

I am adjusting the price it was suggested with the key price with a slight increase

problem is it was suggested with a bud currency and not a key currency that is why the hats displayed price is what it is.

and how ppl managed to by them for that low as a quicksell

I think there is a rule about those somewhere on the forums to lazy to look it up now but its there by polar I think.]

he might confirm.he said we should suggest for those hats that where affected by the bud incident to whet buds price was when the last suggestion was accepted.

edit: editing a lot I try to make it make some sense my english are not good.

http://i.imgur.com/Tty0RNB.jpg 45 keys + 5 keys = 50 keys * 0.9 overpay =45 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25644250 Sold for 29 keys pure

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25863162 b/o 35 keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25766738 b/o 30 keys. Sold for Kill-a-watt War Pig(28 keys * 0.9 = ~25 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25599580 Sold for 24 keys pure.

There are many sales of clean versions of the hat being less than 40 keys which is of a duped version. Looking at one of the trades for the duped version of this hat, http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25726146, 32 keys was up for a good 1 week. The 40 keys sale is potentially an outlier here but it seems to be a solid sale with you receiving an offer of a duped Blizzardy storm Tossle + 5 keys pure. This will probably be closer to 40 keys.

Looking at some offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22246727 28 keys pure + sweets offer.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25644250 28 keys pure offer and eventally sold for 29 keys pure.

These offers suggest that anything less than 28 keys are outliers.

I would probably go with a wider range of 29-40. This shouldn't be a 40 keys flat price considering the number of sales that happened at less than that.