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Active Suggestion #49!
One and only valid sale:
Sold with a StatTrak™ AWP | Corticera for a Secret Samur-Eye + Beams Swagman + Beams Noir + Pro KS Aussie Scattergun + 10 keys
235 + 135 + 48 + 55 - 23 * 0.9 + 10 = 405 keys
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198053233649?time=1426575600
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198053233649?time=1426662000
Scattergun mini:
2 Sold for $129.87 on day of sale, keys were at $2.38 at the time.
$129.87/$2.38 = 54.567 keys rounding to 55 keys
http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Strange%20Professional%20Killstreak%20Australium%20Scattergun
AWP mini:
1 sold at $54.88 at time of sale = 23 keys (keys being $2.38)
Secret Samur mini:
No valid sales.
B/O at 235 keys, below current backpack.tf price
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25497494
Illusion, fantasy to study!
You can't price the Secret Samureye based on a pure key buyout especially since it's not a sale. Plus your link is from a closed outpost thread from a month ago (we don't know what it sold for). This post has to be a joke because your proof is ridiculous. You don't even have any proof for your price on the Sunbeams Swagmans which you are saying is lower than backpack price. Thanks for trying to kill the price of my hat but better luck next time.
I was the seller of the non-duped Samur-Eye and it did not sell. If you do a bit of research I put it in marketplace.tf's bots while prices cool down from the rollback (fall of buds).
It didn't sell and I plan to sell it in the future for a much higher price.
Yes, it did not sell. You listed it below the current outdated backpack.tf price, at a price some may consider a quicksell price. But it didn't sell at that price, thus I believe, not being a quicksell price.
"from the rollback (fall of buds)." - In general this puts the samur-eye in murky waters and can't be correctly decided on price at the moment, more OR less. I'd say wait until it actually sells then make a new suggestion on it, probably not a great idea establishing a price on a trade where we don't know the exact value.
Yes, but your outpost trade with its B/O in keys, not buds, that couldn't sell at a possible quicksell price should be sufficient evidence of a more current price point. As there are no other valid sales for the samur-eye itself, I believe this should be alright.
This doesn't need to be decided at this moment today, say what you will, but I am against rushing pricing suggestions just because it's already created.
It may not be a valid argument, but unusual pricing wise I think Backpack.tf effects much of the market. That conclusion only drawn on that I have sold unusuals for higher than they were prev. worth when the rollback happened (basing on Backpack.tf pricing).
That's a valid point, but then also, I don't anticipate we'll see another sale of the Ooze Law anytime soon. I'd just like to price it before the sale is too old to use. But then, there really isn't any harm in leaving it unpriced and waiting for another sale.
I would like to price it too but the Samureye's pricing is too uncertain for us to do so now. The other items are more obvious and make up a smaller portion of the value. It's not like we're pricing the sunbeams noir so that means that we need to use caution and not make assumptions about a hat that makes up a huge portion of the trade.
If you honestly believe I'm doing this specifically because I don't particularly like you, you are quite wrong and don't really have a good understanding of what the site is for. I'm doing this because I enjoy suggesting prices for the benefit of all.
Also, a B/O can be used as proof if it is below the current price. Please read up before commenting on that which you don't have full knowledge of as of yet (as shown by your own suggestion for this).
I think you're just being a jerk overall not specifically against me. Want to use a buyout then use the 480 key current buyout rather than a one month old buyout.
Why do you think I'm being a jerk? I'm following the guidelines for suggestions, namely a B/O within 2 months old.
If you didn't have malicious intent you would use current buyouts and backpack pricing rather than some insane quicksale buyout from a month ago that was never sold. Tell us please, why use a one month old buyout when a current buyout is available?
Read my comment below.
What makes you think you're qualified to understand high tier unusual trading? You have no items of value aside from a toilet tier cancer hat.
Then look at my history. I cashed out a while back for Dota 2 items. True, I'm not a big fan of trading, but I do understand. Tell me that I don't understand and prove it.
You clearly don't understand that backpack.tf does not allow people to price hats based on unsold buyout prices. Just based on that alone you should close this suggestion (never mind that you have no evidence for your Swagmans price at all). So no matter how many suggestions you have, this alone shows that you don't understand how prices work.
Prove that the rules say I can't use B/O's as proof. Swagman's price is updated.
Here's a current listing of a Secret Samureye with a 480 pure key buyout. Not only are you lacking evidence but the evidence that you have is an outdated quicksale asking price. Maybe you should update your price on the Samureye to 480 keys based on this buyout?
:-P
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25784654
https://marketplace.tf/items/359;5;u46/It%27s%20a%20Secret%20to%20Everybody%20Samur-Eye
No, that won't happen. A "quicksale" that fails to quicksell isn't considered a quicksale.
Also, if you would do some of your own research rather than just blasting mine to hell and back, you'd my previous suggestion for this, listed by Hex, that closed. Read the comments. Blasting someones proof while offering up other unusable proof does not endear others to you.
I made the first suggestion on this hat and you just stole my proof and changed the numbers so don't pretend that I didn't do my research. You're a scrub and your excuses about using old buyouts instead of current buyouts are not believable. If you didn't have malicious intent you would use current buyouts and backpack pricing rather than some insane quicksale buyout from a month ago that was never sold. Tell us please, why use a one month old buyout when a current buyout is available?
Because the rules clearly state you cannot use a B/O higher than the current price.
Also, I did not steal your proof, I never copy and paste. I hunted down the proof using the premium search function.
The previous person who posted on your behalf clearly stole my proof. I looked at the suggestion and it's pure theft of my research with price changes that you deem necessary. Also, backpack has the Samureye at 407-481 keys so a buyout at 480 keys in not above backpack. Even so, a decent person would have at least mentioned a current higher buyout rather than pretended that there was nothing else.
Did you not read the comments in the previous suggestion?
It's just your friend trying to justify the lowest possible price on this hat because one guy wanted to quicksell the samureye for a lower price than backpack while others didn't. Did you happen to research how many of these are duped? The Samureye I traded was clean and I'm sure that affects the value. Just stop with your excuses about using buyouts because buyouts are not sales and you can't price a hat like this based on a single buyout.
You keep saying "quicksell" when a quicksell is characterized by a literal quick sell within a day or so. Was this? I think not. Also, this is coming from you with the 8 suggestions, criticizing the guy with 900+.
I rarely make suggestions because I want the level of research to be exceptional so that I don't wind up looking like a goof. You clearly don't understand that backpack.tf does not allow people to price hats based on unsold buyout prices. Just based on that alone you should close this suggestion (never mind that you have no evidence for your Swagmans price at all).
Please read the rules for unusual suggestions. Yes, you can use B/O's as proof, and yes, the Swagman's price is up to date if you would look.
I seriously doubt anybody thinks that I'm the fool here. You have no idea about pricing as clearly displayed by your desire to price a hat based on a single unsold price from a month ago.
A month B/O is valid under the suggestion rules, that's all I need to say to counter your argument :P
So current buyout is irrelevant? Since when are unsold items considered valid for pricing? Link me.
I can tell you still have not read the rules for unusual suggestions, else you would already have read it. No, it is not called an unsold, it's a B/O.
http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-guide-for-unusual-price-suggestions/
No matter what I say you're going to think that the price is low because you want it to be so hopefully the admins close this. I'm done as I don't want to waste my time. Good luck in life.
Honestly, I think all your values here are fine. Close enough. But the fact remains that it's not fair to drop a hat's value based on a 4 day b/o, especially when the hat is worth 200+ keys (the secret sam). The secret sam is probably around ~250-300 in value. So you're not far off, but it just won't be priceable based on that b/o alone.