Suggestion: Dead Presidents Dark Falkirk Helm at 14–16 keys

Price Suggestion

~15 keys

81 votes up

137 votes down

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This suggestion was accepted Wed, 27 May 15 04:24:54 +0000 by polar.

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bought 1:1 with a blizzardy ketche. I have no proof that it was a 1:1, but that's ok.

http://snag.gy/21Puc.jpg offered 16 keys pure a few hours after I put it for sale, I considered it too low and didn't accept it, but that doesn't mean it's too low

You insisted it was not 1:1 in your last suggestion, now you're saying it was?

I feel like youre just lying to get a couple more dollars.

Your last suggestion stated you paid expensive sweets, now you say it was 1:1

it wasn't a 1:1, but the proof on the suggestion by cobalt (read: no proof at all) was accepted just fine, and I can't betray a private offer, so 14-16 seems to be the best I can do.

in theory we could just dig through item histories, but it would be so much easier if you just provided a screenshot of your inventory history instead of being dodgy

edit: just went into the bptf backpack histories for 5/2/15 and 5/3/15 for the guy you got this from. I see only this: http://backpack.tf/item/2506640744 as a sweet changing hands. where are these so-called expensive sweets you gave him

Exactly how I see only a 1:1.

credit to cobalt for making the low end for no reason and with no proof

Thanks for nothing. I have lost all respect I may have had for you. You insult me and steal my proof. Do you even know what a mini is?

When was this offer made? Is it still active?

no, it was too low

I'll need an answer to the first question as well, please.

the 3rd of may. I put this for sale the previous day or possibly the early morning of the same day. You can see the date in the corner of my computer screen on the screenshot

edit: it also says expires on the 17th, so it isn't a fake

Alright. This should be fine.

Lol no.. No proof and biggest bullshit ever

I know right. it's a wonder how it ever got reduced in the first place. I actually provided proof the the 16 key offer however

Yeah that proof is right! But just

'bought 1:1 with a blizzardy ketche. I have no proof that it was a 1:1, but that's ok.'

C'mon!

the last suggestion by cobalt had no proof and that was ok. It does seem stupid

Telling me I have no proof, then countering and not crediting me for my proof/minis that you are taking.

How rude.

you had a mini for a non-proofed 1:1. It should never have been lowered in the first place

the mini-suggestion was for the ketch, pretty sure the ketch being involved in the trade isn't up for dispute?

not at all. what's up for dispute is "he got a ketche, therefore it must have been a 1:1" with no research at all

it's very hard to tell if small sweets were added usually, and from what I understand both parties involved with the trade are refusing to talk specifics

and I'm assuming the sweets are small since I can't find anything other than the party phantom mask

if it's hard to tell, it shouldn't be used as definite proof should it :/ and yes the party phantom was involved, it isn't sellable on the scm

I think it's usually assumed that nothing was added if it isn't immediately obvious

"it isn't sellable on the scm" not sure how that's relevant, but yeh, I know....

as in, it cannot be put on the scm, so it will be in his inventory. I don't see how assumptions= proof to lower something by ~25%

my point was that telling us that it isn't sellable on the steam market isn't relevant at all, of course it was in his inventory, how else did I find it? it's not like you're telling us what you paid

and I'm not really seeing that cobalt's suggestion needs to be countered because you refuse to tell us what your sale involved (from what I can tell, you added negligible sweets to the ketch) and effectively basing your suggestion on an offer doesn't look so good :<

fun fact: disliking comments is very mature, and makes your opinions more valid

says you, you dislike all our comments.

btw no hate

mods just keeping this up for lols.

Man,you make one guy a fairly generous offer and then this happens:D

Here's a funny story for ya:

http://puu.sh/hKqh1/83c04e3999.jpg

Guess who's trade was 1:1?

Ketche is outdated and will require a mini-suggestion, which you do not have here.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25690896 current Ketche B/O of 13 keys.

Enjoy your ban for manipulation.

the le party can't be put on the scm.. and I am trying to raise the price to 14-16, the 14 from the last accepted and the 16 from actual proof. I'm not saying ignore the other suggestion 0.o there is no manipulation here

Your point being?

"Enjoy your ban for manipulation."

.. if 14 is a manipulation, ban cobalt. If the 16 is a manipulation, how so?

The point being you lied repeatedly to try and raise the price of this.

what I am using to try and raise its price: a 16 key offer within a few hours of being up for sale that I considered too low. Prove this is somehow a lie. The guy who offered also commented on this suggestion, and didn't deny he made the offer. My previous suggestion: also used the 16 key offer. Never have I said I have been offered other high offers, or faked the 16 key offer. Yes, I'm denying it was a 1:1, but for the purposes of my suggestions I'm keeping the low end at the 1:1 price anyway because revealing a private offer isn't moral

The lie is about it not being 1:1, not the offer.

It's been proven several times you 1:1'd.

Okay, took a look at this.

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Basing high end on offer - check

0 credit - check

Hur dur raiz my unusal - check

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Downvote.

you forgot :being rude to the person i stole proof form - check

Stop disliking all the comments.