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The Frying Pan
Submitted by Enlite
~2.83 ref
Unique Frying Pan
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sold for 0.88

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25886278 (sold 7)


sold for 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25534135 (sold 20!)

Tell me if I have did something wrong!

    IDK, I have a feeling they're outliers, even though there's 27 sellers/sales.

    The classifieds just don't agree and the "counter-proof" (the 1 valid link) posted by Homework (located below) seem to show otherwise and just don't agree with this suggestion.


    > http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25534135

    We need solid evidence that this person sold. Check item histories, backpack histories, etc. Numbers, when just written, mean nothing until acted on.

    > http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25886278

    Again, check backpack and item histories. This guy is a restocker, I just checked his inventory. I'm leaving the histories up to you though.


    Good luck on this suggestion.

    I wrote important words in bold to help you improve. If you have any questions, feel free to reply to this comment. I'd rather you not add me as I'm busy on steam at the current time.

    While I have sold over 20 pans, not all of them were sold at my current price. I've only sold 12 at my 1 ref; 2 in the last week. I dump all the screenshots for those trades here if you want to take a look. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ox48jfg28alqx2e/AACwzJFA4WMh8g_OtKYfUWRFa?dl=0

      Downvote.


      You've proved .66 can quicksell. (Not as well proven for .77 though.) But with many sellers, and sales at .66, that counts as one of the most common trading points. I'm assuming the mods will accept this suggestion, but they shouldn't. It would completely eliminate a common trading point, which is what this site is meant to capture.

        Thanks all for the downvotes. He has "proof", (That isn't even fully good, 100% evidence of current trades) for 27 pans. Want to know how many sold at .66/.77 just by images, and links in the comments? 27. Seriously, If you are calling bullshit on my claim, tell me why.

          Alot have sold for 1 ref already, thus many people are already starting to sell for 1 ref in OP regardless of classifieds. Also, I didn't downvote and the 1 ref link already sold 37+. (edit - or 40, perhaps)

            I'm not trying to say 1 ref doesn't sell. I'm trying to say .66 is one of the most common trading points, so it therefore should not be removed from the range.

      Not enough proof.

        I could add if I need to, I'll wait if they aren't enough..

          well there are actually 27 sales...

            Off 2 people.

              And?

                Surely you need to have proof from more than just two sellers?

                  those two people sold not only 1, so technically it's not only 2.

                    Sorry, i understand that, but i still thought you need more than two sellers even if they sell 100 pans each.


                    I must be mistaken.

                      http://backpack.tf/vote/id/549dcc53b98d88b63c8b4c38 - Buds vs Pan?

                      buds need even more proof and see puddington bear's comment, he provided 20 solds from 1 guy (himself)

                        Ok, Sorry then.

                          I wouldn't recommend using that as a counter argument considering the current predicament around Puddington and earbuds.

                          That suggestion has been called manipulation multiple times.

                            Yet it is not, It was being said by MODS/ADMINS in the forums it was correctly accepted and therefor it is a usable proof.

                        I understand what you're saying here but the grammar and execution wasn't that good.

                        What I took from that message was "Those people sold more than 2 and thus it's not just 2 sales". Is that what you were going for?

                          Yes, it was what i was going for

                    Only 2 sellers, but 27 buyers. If those 27 buyers all had posted their trades on Outpost, they'd definitely be valid. Why should this be any different?

                  Here are my current sales of frying pans at 0.66 in the span of 4 days:


                  May 10:

                  http://i57.tinypic.com/33ti2pg.jpg 1 sold at 0.66

                  http://i61.tinypic.com/2h82rrr.jpg 3 sold at 0.66

                  http://i60.tinypic.com/30my49y.jpg 1 sold at 1 ref overpay in item.

                  May 11

                  http://i57.tinypic.com/do5hl3.jpg 3 sold at 0.66

                  May 12

                  http://i58.tinypic.com/4h2l9g.jpg 2 sold at 0.66, 1 at 0.77

                  http://i57.tinypic.com/nlwyeu.jpg 2 sold at 1 ref, 1 at 0.66

                  May 13

                  http://i60.tinypic.com/242a0k2.jpg 2 sold at 0.66

                  http://i61.tinypic.com/2r2ylxw.jpg 2 sold at 0.66


                  So with the current range, i'm approximately selling 3-4 frying pans a day at 0.66 (with some occasions at 1 ref).

                    Although 0.66 is becoming a quicksell... some can also prove that the range im suggesting is alright... I am starting to think this is the most neutral suggestion

                      The current range is fine, 0.66 just sells a bit quicker compared to 0.77, 0.88, and 1.

                    http://i62.tinypic.com/2uy6elw.jpg

                    0.44 and in bulk for 0.60

                        They are starting to decline, there are only 2 pages of 0.66 sellers now.

                          Downvote- The amount of Counter Proof provided.

                            http://gyazo.com/ade59cf32ab4bcfcf7fc84b993414369


                            sold for 1 ref, just a little help :P

                              I don't think pan is worth so much, but there seems to be some proof, upvoted.

                              I can't believe that this bloody pan can be worth same amount of metal as strange tomislav.

                                As a pan collector, I must be really sad because it will cost more to collect. But my pan collection will go up in value!

                                  Sellers @ 0.66 on Classifieds,

                                  as well as Buyers @ 1 ref on the same page. Weird.....

                                    To be fair most of those 0.66 sellers were poorly bumped.

                                      Combined old proof and added new, links consists out of solds and sellers:

                                      Selling:

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25993302 - 0.11 ref?

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26024965 - 0.11 ref?

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26031499 - 0.11 ref?

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26036593 - 0.11 ref?

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25980115 - 0.55 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26014296 - 1.66 ref for 3

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25986732 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25991227 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25999100 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25745121 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26029058 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26002537 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25960456 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26017939 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25729981 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25984135 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26039848 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24823245 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25844110 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25860335 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25729981 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25910399 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25900055 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25934802 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25896677 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25829949 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25872359 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25929748 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25912644 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25910399 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25808422 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25729981 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://i57.tinypic.com/33ti2pg.jpg - 0.66 ref

                                      http://i61.tinypic.com/2h82rrr.jpg - 0.66 ref

                                      http://i57.tinypic.com/do5hl3.jpg - 0.66 ref

                                      http://i58.tinypic.com/4h2l9g.jpg - 0.66 ref

                                      http://i57.tinypic.com/nlwyeu.jpg - 0.66 ref

                                      http://i60.tinypic.com/242a0k2.jpg - 0.66 ref

                                      http://i61.tinypic.com/2r2ylxw.jpg - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25808422 - 0.66 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26023096 - 0.66 ref (-)

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26026357 - 0.71 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25943732 - 0.77 ref

                                      http://i58.tinypic.com/4h2l9g.jpg - 0.77 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26010567 - 0.77 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26014017 - 0.77 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26032087 - 0.77 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25911704 - 0.77 ref

                                      Note: there might be one or two links double-posted.


                                      Buying:

                                      http://nl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2uy6elw&s=8#.VWLHy_ntmkp - 0.44 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25651522 - 0.44 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25797659 - 0.44 ref

                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25998545- 0.66 ref

                                      ...


                                      Combined with the proof I've provided, if we look at the classifieds we can see that 0.66 ref still gets traded on a regular basis. It's noticable however that there is a decline of sellers for 0.66 ref, but at this point it's too soon to change the range to a new one.

                                      You've proved that 1 ref is also possible so that other suggestion (for 0.66 ref: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5561dc86ba8d88fd738b461b ) can also be closed.

                                        What I don't understand is, if there are so many people selling for 0.66, why are there people buying for 1 ref? Are they misinformed of actual prices?

                                          Not everyone have patience to wait for correct price. And 1 rec difference isn't this much of a problem for frying pan (unlike robo parts).

                                            I sold a regular one on outpost for 1 ref too, I think It's because the ones who buy on tf2outpost have not that comparision... and the prices sold there are more expensive in geneal

                                            Hey fix your last buying link, its broken. Anyways i analised it


                                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25998545 - Badly bumped, Unvalid.

                                            The price of a pan now a days is just PANTER.

                                              so many unsolds at 0.66 and 0.77 here in the classifieds....

                                                I AM KING RAJA, AND IT IS TIME FOR PANDEMONIUM!

                                                Also, before I knew of Raja, i named my pan Total PANdermonium, sad but good 1!

                                                  I tried to sell my Frying Pan for 0.66 refined, and I got 7 trade offers and 3 friend requests from one bump.


                                                  ... Yeah, this thing deserves a raise in my opinion.

                                                    I retried for 0.77 refined. Apparently that also got 2 trade offers in a span of one bump.

                                                    Current range seems fine. Certainly not enough shown here to show that 0.88-1 is better than 0.66-1