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I've been dreading my death, here it comes.


Sale 1) Sold for nothing of value

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198066195760?time=1429073867


Sale 2) Sold for MG Neckwear (235) * 0.9 = ~232 Keys

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073180806?time=1429340400


Sale 3) Sold for DaD Brown Bomber (335) * 0.9 = ~302 Keys

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198096279100?time=1431068400


Bomber Mini

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198038509148?time=1425715200 --- Sold for Spellbound Hustler's (200) + Beams Swagman (135) = 335


Sale 4) For ? in $

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198059269644?time=1432067709


Sale 5) *shrugs*

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198048520402?time=1432105200


Sale 6) Sold for Ghastly Ghosts KE (250) * 0.9 = 225

~Asked the Buyer


Sale 7) Was brokering it, gave it to original owner to put it in a set.

~Asked the Seller

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Summary

232 - Rounding to 230

302 - Outlier

225

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Yey.

    Sale 4 was 1k

      It may have sold for 1k, but I wouldn't trust a word Jim Carrey says. And if you look at the history on the hat, it went to a sweepstakes bot. Not sure who SphearAphex is and how he is involved. He got a boatload of high tiers from sweepstakes and he is also between Jim and Panda in the history too.

        Phearaphex won the hat from sweetstakes. I believe he sold it back to panda for a skull executioner. It was duped though. Ill ask him to post here to clarify everything.

          Jim Carrey did sell to him I know that, he was messaging me worrying about if selling to panda was a bad idea because I also sold a hat to panda. It's not a legit proof anyway, from my experience with panda ranger Jim probably said "well it's 500 keys, how does 1k sound?" and the kid immediately agreed.

            PhearAphex just commented below that he was the one to sell it to Panda for a duped secret ex.

              Yea, but that's 608 unduped (close to that duped), so that's maybe an outlier?

                Duped secret ex ought to get a mini. No way is it worth close to 600 keys. Those used to sell for ~40 buds and that translates to ~400 keys nowadays. I would be shocked if it was more than 400-500.


                I will look at this more closely later.

                  alright, I can try to work on finding a mini for that too (when I finish with what I'm working on)

                  Still, would it be an outlier compared to the 3 sales I have? Or are my sales outliers?

                It's almost definitely an outlier because panda has no idea what he's doing

                odd, doesn't seem like something someone would lie about, and if so, what happened to jim's backpack? Seems like Panda bought it from Jim, lost it to sweetstakes, and bought it back.

          2)

          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25720291

          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25727899


          I might be wrong, but it seems to have sold with a MG Samur as well.

            http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073180806?time=1429340400

            Samur was gone when he still had the Neckwear.

              What? The MG samur is there. Am I missing something?

                  I was just missing it.

                  I can't get a mini on the Samur (no usable sales on either), so I'll resuggest without that sale.

                  *I still need to figure out what's going on with Sale 4 and the sale GotWaffle claims happened*

                    Is it okay to just skip that sale? I mean, the hood would be higher than that sale.


                    And also, http://steamcommunity.com/id/JCapps?tscn=1432750023. I asked him what he sold it for.

                      If I can't get a mini, then I skip it.

                        But the sale is signifant or am I wrong here? This sale might affect the pricing.

                          Nobody knows until a sale happens.

                            Pretty sure Spectreus is right about the samur-eye, histories match up.


                            Also sold for a Cloudy Chapeau - http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198075430775?time=1432364400

                            I'd say 210 would be a good low end.


                              I hope I don't sound rude, but I'm going to quote what I've said here.


                              "I was just missing it.

                              I can't get a mini on the Samur (no usable sales on either), so I'll [ignore] that sale."


                              "Also, Reebe sold his

                              http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198071364442?time=1432521027 --- Cloudy Moon Charmer (230)"

                                But you're missing the point, you can't ignore significant sales, can you?

                                That's picking out sales, which makes the suggestion invalid.

                                  I can look at the sales, and estimate the value.

                                  But, I can't find an actual value, therefore it can't fit into my actual range.

                                    Alright, it's probably around there, then. Maybe a bit more.

            One just sold for a AF Sensi(200) and Stare from beyond HKC (300)

              Do we have proof of this? There's only one of this hat in existence.

              Also, AF Sensei is 157.5 and Outdated.

              The HKC is unpriced.

                He wasn't saying what they were priced at he was giving how much they're worth...

                  Oh, sorry. Did he mean sale 1 and their worth in $? I thought he/she meant Keys. My mistake.

                    He did mean keys. He was giving another sale and the value of the items in it in keys.

                    What they're priced at = what they're worth for the purpose of suggesting...

                      Even so, there's no proof of it.

                        I'm agreeing with you... :P

                Hello, I indeed sold the hat to Panda for a duped secret exe. I can provide screenshots of the trade if needed.

                  I'd feel that's an outlier?

                  Duped 608 compared to 302, 232, and 225

                  Sold for a Cloudy Company Man

                    Did you sell it for this?

                    Could you post a screenie of the trade?

                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/76561198048920049

                      actually looks like more than just the CM, but the CM is outdated.

                        Yea, I added Spectreus and asked.

                        He sold the Hiding + Duped Ghosts Hallmark (53 Clean) + Demonflame Belgian (68) + Cloud 9 Wet Works (35, Outdated) for the CM Company (310, Outdated)


                        That makes the Dread easily below 200

                          I think you should resuggest and include the Chapeau in the range. Unless it was offered, which I didn't see that it was, you would need to apply overpay which would bring it down to ~210