Suggestion: Burning Flames Fruit Shoot at 70–80 keys

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~120 keys

burning

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This suggestion was accepted Mon, 29 Jun 15 05:18:41 +0000 by polar.

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25850833 - its stated there Sold 60 keys pure + Pro KS Australium Axtinguisher This sale is definitely 69 or 70 keys.

Range here should be 70-80 keys, with the 60 keys sale non-existent and both 86 keys sale not usable here. Also, more reason why 86 keys shouldn't be in:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26144174 - 85 keys b/o

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25552514 - 80 keys b/o (2 months)

offer here shows that 60 is low: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25850833 (harvest moon scotch: 71.5*0.9=64)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198101827162?time=1432973358 (sold with 80 keys for a burning YWN ~ 150 keys) Making the fruit shoot have to be 70 keys

According to grim and kevin this is the range.. oh and julia

where's the high end proof m8?

the B/O i guess

not true actually, here is the high end proof he left out from the last suggestions:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001300729?time=1433311234 (sold for 80 keys pure)

http://i.imgur.com/RTP7rH0.png

scorching glen+~60 keys for this+13th hour (105+60=165-70=95*0.9=86)

added scorching fruit+PE fruit for mallard mohawk (209-68-45=96*0.9=86) (both outliers because of buyout)

Actually, boom missed out on what I wrote in your previous suggestion (apologies to boom, I forgotten to post at his suggestion too). The b/o is only a minor reason why both 86 keys sales shouldn't be used. If both sales were straight forward sales involving 1:1 swaps (+ other sweets) or direct pure sales, then its fine to include them despite the B/O of the other trades since 80 and 86 isn't that far away.

The major reason why both sales should not be used is due to the fact that both sales were complex sales, either involving many unusuals on both sides, or this particular unusual was sold with another one for an unusual of larger price (in which the price of the smaller unusual is then derived from the bigger unusual).

In simpler terms, if A + B sold for C, A and B can be used to price C, but C should not be used to price either A and B. That was what I understood from polar's explanation in other suggestions.

im so confused, so is this sugg still valid?

Yes, it is. I was just explaining the outlier that Kevin wrote.

additional sales:

MG Swagmans ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25807603 ---> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26224276 ) (paid c. moon mann, which is 90-100)

C. Bubbles Menco+DP Front ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26197525 ---> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26214794 ) (87+42=way higher)

Logo Stash ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26144174 ---> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26186925 ) (~80)

So sales at:

70 (pure), 80 (pure), 80, 86 (complex), 86 (complex), 86, 100+, range is 70-80 because of a buyout at 80, (85 seller lowered buyout to undercut me again, which screwed us both)

new seller at 75: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26272201

since the site prices pure rather than unusual values, this is fine

~~I'm just talking to myself at this point~~