Suggestion: Max's Severed Head at 23–24 keys

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~26 keys

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This suggestion was closed Sun, 28 Jun 15 05:48:13 +0000 by polar.

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I should really be completing my school assignment..

Lowering

Found a single seller on Outpost, they are still attempting to hold strong against the current Bp.tf price.

Some links for those who are interested:

No B/O: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25527874

Looking to 1:1: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26200986

26 keys pure: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25946388 (1 month old)

26 keys pure/painted : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26199977 (Recent)

Please remember, sales are not necessary for dropping items here! Keeping 24 for below V

Single seller:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26093086 - 23 keys pure.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26138699 - 23.56 keys, rounding to 24. Already has key collecting offer.

Backpack.tf classifieds:

http://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Max%27s%20Severed%20Head&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1

23 keys sellers x6.

Rest are either painted or 24+, keeping 24 keys in range.

Please let me know what else should change. (Constructive Criticism)

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Edit:

More sellers I just found on OP:

24 keys pure: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26198840

23 keys pure: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26192829 (Also here on classifieds)

As you can see, these should be easy/hard to find in different price ranges :P

Screenie of the classifieds:

http://imgur.com/2nxoeyE - Date taken = 6/14/2015 (15th local time for me, it is past midnight)

More sellers at 24.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26163604 - Apparently accepted the 24 key pure offer, but max's is still in his/her inventory.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26200397 - Also young (Maybe just bumped?)

Seller at 25 - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25959989 - A Month old

Sale for MN E. Rack 50-61 keys http://prntscr.com/7l7eg2 was offered on

Got really lucky. Not a valid sale.

Cya Maxes Heads.. :)

FRESH PROOF: http://imgur.com/9z4R0PT - 5 sellers at 23 keys pure. Classifieds.

TF2 OUTPOST: http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/249454093 Sellers asking for 24+ keys.

Your seller at 24 is very young. Maybe some more proof for the high end?

I'll search it out. Although I am a bit busy with my assignment. Thanks for the hint though!

You know, you can edit your initial post to add all these. You can only do it up to an hour after making the suggestion but it's only been 23 minutes.

Thanks :P Don't recall that ability in the past.. xD

I sold it for 24 key good but I have to wait 1 week :s

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26193895

Thanks for your input, but I think it's best to wait a week and see if it actually sells. (A lot of times the buyers change their mind)

ded suggestion https://steamcommunity.com/trade/704032947439129582/receipt downvote sold 1 week

You don't understand.. 24 is still in the range, and it took an entire week to sell.. More sellers for 23 than solds for 24. Upboat!

I'm rated up this suggestion.

Lets to this vote (:

took me one day sold it for 24 keys, stop this unnecesary drops, downvote http://imgur.com/N3Ri2RG

24 is still in the range, and yet I have enough proof for 23. Thanks for the extra proof though! It will definitely help the suggestion!

http://imgur.com/Pym593q buyer at 23 keys.

your proof for 23 is gone now. there is one seller on classifieds at 23 keys. the op seller you had has sold within a day.

either find some fresh proof or this suggestion will be closed.

If it's gone that means they sold, supporting my suggestion even more. No need for empty threats though.

That doesnt mean they support, the market has changed. lol its not a threat, im just letting you know.

You'd actually be basing your low end (23) on outdated evidence :/ Like Surs said, find fresh evidence or the sugggestion will get closed.

anymore sellers at 23 keys?

Bp.tf classifieds are full of sellers at 22-23. No Need for extra proof.

i see nothing at 23 and 1 at 22 which is gifted so yes you do need extra proof

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Max's Severed Head&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1

7 sellers at 23, some with paint

Ty. Too many ignorant people here, butthurt about me lowering their max's. xD

i think its a pretty good recomend. Lots of sellers at 23 and some sold at 24. The best proof would be solds at 23 :) if you can find some that would help your case even more. Lots of the sellers at 24 are old postings which means 24 is on the high side too.

Max rised, there's almost no one going for 23 keys right now, imagine 22...

sold one yesterday, for 24 keys: http://postimg.org/image/ri64lcizf/

and 4 or 5 max'es for 23 keys + 10 refs

http://imgur.com/Pym593q buyer at 23 keys.

And buyers mean anything?

buyers are used to show if a price is too low...

I know but I could post Im buying for 20 keys that doesnt mean it's worth 20 keys.

My point of view just saying.I believe sales show the true price of the item not buyers...

Cheers

do you understand what i said? buyers are used to show if prices are LOW. i never said if you put a buying trade for 20 keys it would be worth 20 keys. if buyers are paying that price, then 20 keys is low. same example in this max head sggestion, if there are buyers at 23, that shows 23 is low.

Ah now i get it.Thanks for explaining :)

I sold one for 24 yesterday http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26281298 / http://puu.sh/iDkQY/9f3ce5679f.png

sold one today, for 24 keys, in 22 minutes, not even bumped once: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26295124

That's a quicksell. Most of the time quicksells are not used as direct proof, but rather as a support proof for a suggestion.

do you know what you're talking about? quicksale at 24 means its countering your suggestion by showing 23 is low.

thanks mate

yes pls. master rollo told me teh suggestion will be accepted

rollo? who da fuq is that.

anyways, 24 seems to be most common, unless you add fresh proof for 23, it wont be accepted.

egg & flour

True that.

It's ebb & flow and not egg & flour. ;_;

I changed my name back to rollo anyways, so ok.

Please take a look at the classifieds. http://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Max%27s+Severed+Head&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1

Also, I don't see why my given proof has outdated already. I guess I can add some more screenies when I have the time. Just untwist your panties, will ya?

They're 4 sellers now, and all of them are duped.

The proof you had above was gone, your 23 key seller quicksold. get some more proof, those 6 sellers wont be enough for a drop. now quit changing the topic to me, and actually look for proof.

k dennnnnn

http://imgur.com/odwllNV - Some more proof, since you apparently can't see it yourself. Most of them are perfectly clean, and Roller said himself that the levels don't matter. (Although if they are duped, it does matter)

i clearly said 6 sellers on classifieds ARENT ENOUGH. which meant i did check. so instead of assuming, actually read what i write. quit being lazy and look for more proof throughout outpost.

http://i.imgur.com/KOsBvIi.png - 7 sellers; all/most duped

In just one suggestion I have seen every possible way from one guy to show he doesn't understand pricing. "Quicksell at the high end of my suggestions doesn't prove anything", "Buyer at 23 doesn't mean anything" and also "this one quicksell proves my suggestion". We're fine with you not understanding a lot, but clearly try easier items before the max head, which in this case needs everything but a drop in price. Everything you said or other people brought show 23 keys in the range is complete nonsense, and that maybe 24 keys should be some sort of low end.

Oh, also: when everyone tells you, rightfully, that you are completely off, at least try to understand why and accept it. "Ignorant people", you are the ignorant one here. I don't really like when people who don't handle a matter act as if they did, but I hate when they even think they know better than the others, while they clearly don't.

What the hell are you saying? Are some here actually blind? At least 5 sellers at 23 keys JUST TODAY. http://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Max%27s+Severed+Head&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 I am wayyyy too busy with exams, and listed all the necessary proof before I started them.

Are you seriously taking the classifieds as main proof? And what's telling you these 23 keys max won't quicksell ultra rapidly? We see 24 keys one being quicksold, so by logic the 23 keys will go at least as quick.

I get a feeling they won't go as fast as 24 keys Cause they're all duped

You're right Discovery, but that actually is another point proving OP is completely wrong. If duped max seller are confident they will sell it at 23, and the pricing here is about all the max's in general, it shows 23 should not be in the range. It's as if a duped unusual sold for 100 keys, and you used it as a proof to lower the current bp price from 120 to 100.

You're fun. http://imgur.com/odwllNV - Most clean, classifieds made recently. I won't be responding from now on, since I am actually busy, and won't take BS from a low level suggester (you) ᕦ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕤ

"Since I am actually busy", then why did you waste your own time to set up a suggestion showing you don't understand a thing to pricing? My doubts are confirmed, you use backpack.tf classifieds as main proof, just this reason alone is enough to close this. I am fine with people being newbie, I am not fine with people being newbie yet being arrogant. Enjoy all the downvotes to your comment, full of "BS" as you say yourself (how elegant that was), very close to being troll-material. ("from a low level suggestor"? that is irony taken to an altogether new level)

Classifieds can be used as main evidence, he just doesn't have valid evidence of it. Other than that, he's a just a troll. Better to downvote the suggestion and move on than to feed the troll and possibly start a flame war.

Maybe he's insulting you being a low level suggester cause he has one more accepted suggestion than you kek ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Yea, he fed the troll. Yes, the evidence is valid, not all are duped, and fresh evidence has been posted. Roller taught me this, and he did say, according to my proof, that the suggestion will be accepted. This is why I am not listening to anyone. (Roller has helped me out more than once, and always turned out to be right)

I don't think anyone else here will ever see a more arrogant price suggester than you.

Keep up your good work kek

Thanks! kekek :)

Who is Roller?

an experienced brown belt suggester.

only 6 sellers on classifieds, you'll need a bit more. outpost sellers would help, but you're refusing to find them. which is also being lazy.

and just cuz roller says its right, doesnt mean it is, your 23 key seller from outpost quicksold, there are several sales at 24 in the comments.

you're just ignoring all those for the sake of ur sgt.

No need to call me lazy, although I completely agree with you on your other arguments. Problem is, I have been looking through OP everyday, and all I see are sellers at 25+ keys on there. As another person has already stated, classifieds can been used as main proof, and I have been listing these revolving proofs throughout the past 2 weeks. I will continue to look out for proof, and post it. I am sure you will agree with me on this.

finally, a straight up reply from you. classifieds can be used as main proof, but for an item this common, you would need atleast 10~ on classifieds. i would say to find a couple sellers on outpost at 23, but w/e, gl on the sgt.

sorry for calling you lazy, bit tired, so i have to watch what i say.

No problem, glad we could reach an agreement. Seems like we both fuzzed up a bit, but I am glad to be receiving further tips from a long-term suggester.

I will list the extra proof I find under here, I find it easier to direct to.

23 sellers on OP.

Lvl 1 - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26297643

Lvl 13, Clean - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26254508. 5 days ago.

Lvl 52 Got a really nice one - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26296579, seems clean at first glance.

Paused the search for a bit. Will post here if I find more.

EDIT: Found another one, Lvl 34 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26284136

4th link is broken and hes selling at 22-23, not 23.

lvl 34 is unbumped.

first two are alright, 23 indeed should stay in the range.

Thanks so much for your approval. If I offended you in anyway, I apologize. Good day!

no problem, but im not a mod lol, you'll need a mods approval for this to be accepted :p

i didnt get offended so no worries lol. same 2 u, enjoy your day.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26254508 - unbumped for 2 days, but unsold for nearly week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26284136 - unbumped since the creation of trade

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26296579 - unbumped since creation

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26297643 - 1 hour from being valid, keep an eye on it

At least you finally listened to Surs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Other than that, it's looking good.

Closing due to insufficient evidence for the low end. You have only two links at 23 compared to several sales happening at 24 in comments. Classifieds can only be used as primary proof on an item as common as this if there are 10+ of them. Just not enough here. You should look up some more trades at 23 to show that that is a common trade point.