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Price is 6 months old, doing this as a favor to the person I sold the gilded to...
Sold for 20 pure keys and Genuine Pro KS Awper Hand (12 keys) = 32 keys
(in case you noticed the steaming soft grenadier was missing from the two it wasn't involved in trade and was only on the market http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198203307876?time=1434178800 proof that it was still owned by me after i removed from market)
Mini for awper = (forgive my pricing being canadian currency)
Steam community market on that day for genuine pro ks awper was $35.49 and keys were selling at $2.97 = 12 keys (rounding)
It's a little hard to do a mini for the genuine pro ks awper because it is flames/team shine which are high tier, but this is the best way i could find. May be a little low by a key or 2 even, but that should make up for my lack of overpay pricing consideration. The only comparable awpers i could find on classifieds were selling at 14 keys;
Please include these in your range as well. Thanks!
your assumption it was sold for a bandana is incorrect sir. that was part of a complicated 3 way trade + steam game purchases and gifts. trying to track down any screen shots. this is the only traceable sale for now.
If it wasn't sold for the KaW bandana, but was sold off a complicated trade, what about the third sale that I've provided?
EDIT: Also, as I've said, please provide a trade history based on your sale please. Your keys's history aren't matching to what you've said.
This should remove all doubt about the sale information.
Thank you for providing this.
It looks like it has had recent sales and those need to be included as well.
I cant speak to other sales, but I bought it through a complicated sales arrangement between a friend, a friend of a friend and myself over a month ago involving pro ks weapons and promised steam market purchases. That would be virtually impossible to track lol maybe one of the other 6 have trackable sales.
Even if it was, it would be best to wait for more sales in that case, but the history of your keys as well as items in your backpack don't match up with your story
Edit: The person you bought it from appears to have a b/o of 28 keys and you wouldn't be able to go over that anyways;
the backpack link you provided for this person is a totally unprovable sale. I had looked at this and was unable to ascertain what the trade amount was for. it appeared to be a significant amount but its very complicated.
You can't just ignore things because you don't understand it.
well there is a 2 day gap in backpack history, so its not traceable
also, it appears as if you are unaware of how histories work for items. the history is only updated if the users backpack is scanned by backpack.tf . when keys are purchased through scm if they are traded before the useris scanned by backpack.tf they histories don't update. hence the randomness of all the keys in my backpack. they had only become tradable minutes or hours before the trade was made. a lot of assuming goes on in these pricing suggestions I am seeing, and a lot of incorrect assumptions. see the screen shot of the trade confirmation. 20 keys, a pro ks awper, and a little sweet that I didn't bother mentioning. http://s13.postimg.org/kao9kams7/trade_proof.jpg
That entire paragraph was almost completely irrelevant to what was said, and i don't think i ever said i doubted what the 32 key trade was for however this suggestion is invalid because you can't price something above a persons b/o.
Either way, this suggestion won't pass. Good luck, and i suggest you read all the rules.
there was no buy-out of 28 keys. you have trades mixed up terribly.
I wasn't talking about the sale you used for this suggestion although that is what is looks like :P
But you completely ignored a sale on the grounds of 'this is confusing and i don't want to deal with it.'
not ignored, there was a 2 day gap in history so sale was untraceable
something like this happened to me on my first suggestion you should look at it
well thats some-what consoling. :-) but frustratin nevertheless
Counter price suggestion was made trying to undermine this one, but it uses incorrect prices that were listed at the time of the trades and were older than this sale
Anything younger than 3 months is a valid sale
Do you even know the rules for Unusual Pricing?
Plus you need at least 2 sales if there are 2 usable
Price is 6 months old, doing this as a favor to the person I sold the gilded to...
Sold for 20 pure keys and Genuine Pro KS Awper Hand (12 keys) = 32 keys
backpack before - http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198203307876?time=1434006000
backpack after - http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198203307876?time=1434092400
(only pages 1 and 9 were affected)
(in case you noticed the steaming soft grenadier was missing from the two it wasn't involved in trade and was only on the market http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198203307876?time=1434178800 proof that it was still owned by me after i removed from market)
Mini for awper = (forgive my pricing being canadian currency)
Steam community market on that day for genuine pro ks awper was $35.49 and keys were selling at $2.97 = 12 keys (rounding)
http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Genuine%20Professional%20Killstreak%20AWPer%20Hand
It's a little hard to do a mini for the genuine pro ks awper because it is flames/team shine which are high tier, but this is the best way i could find. May be a little low by a key or 2 even, but that should make up for my lack of overpay pricing consideration. The only comparable awpers i could find on classifieds were selling at 14 keys;
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?tradable=1&craftable=1&item=AWPer%20Hand&quality=1&killstreak_tier=3
12 keys or 14 keys x .9 = 12 keys either way.
20 + 12 = 32 keys
Please leave any constructive criticisms below. Thanks.
Since you've sold this off, could you please show the trade history in Steam as well?
Also there should be other sales as Jay-Z has said.
Sold for KaW Bandana ~20 Keys
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198060611504?time=1432263956
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198060611504?time=1432364400
Sold for C9 Thirst Blood ~Outdated
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198066566072?time=1431725292
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198066566072?time=1431846000
Sold for KaW Beret ~22 Keys
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197996569095?time=1429768044
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197996569095?time=1431500400
Please include these in your range as well. Thanks!
your assumption it was sold for a bandana is incorrect sir. that was part of a complicated 3 way trade + steam game purchases and gifts. trying to track down any screen shots. this is the only traceable sale for now.
If it wasn't sold for the KaW bandana, but was sold off a complicated trade, what about the third sale that I've provided?
EDIT: Also, as I've said, please provide a trade history based on your sale please. Your keys's history aren't matching to what you've said.
http://s13.postimg.org/kao9kams7/trade_proof.jpg
This should remove all doubt about the sale information.
Thank you for providing this.
It looks like it has had recent sales and those need to be included as well.
I cant speak to other sales, but I bought it through a complicated sales arrangement between a friend, a friend of a friend and myself over a month ago involving pro ks weapons and promised steam market purchases. That would be virtually impossible to track lol maybe one of the other 6 have trackable sales.
Even if it was, it would be best to wait for more sales in that case, but the history of your keys as well as items in your backpack don't match up with your story
Edit: The person you bought it from appears to have a b/o of 28 keys and you wouldn't be able to go over that anyways;
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25985528
also this one has a recent sale as well i believe; http://backpack.tf/item/2813817902
at time of that posting being bumped appears as though it was in my backpack :-S
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198203307876?time=1432364400
the backpack link you provided for this person is a totally unprovable sale. I had looked at this and was unable to ascertain what the trade amount was for. it appeared to be a significant amount but its very complicated.
backpack before-
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198064865235?time=1428217200
backpack after-
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198064865235?time=1428390000
You can't just ignore things because you don't understand it.
well there is a 2 day gap in backpack history, so its not traceable
also, it appears as if you are unaware of how histories work for items. the history is only updated if the users backpack is scanned by backpack.tf . when keys are purchased through scm if they are traded before the useris scanned by backpack.tf they histories don't update. hence the randomness of all the keys in my backpack. they had only become tradable minutes or hours before the trade was made. a lot of assuming goes on in these pricing suggestions I am seeing, and a lot of incorrect assumptions. see the screen shot of the trade confirmation. 20 keys, a pro ks awper, and a little sweet that I didn't bother mentioning. http://s13.postimg.org/kao9kams7/trade_proof.jpg
That entire paragraph was almost completely irrelevant to what was said, and i don't think i ever said i doubted what the 32 key trade was for however this suggestion is invalid because you can't price something above a persons b/o.
Either way, this suggestion won't pass. Good luck, and i suggest you read all the rules.
there was no buy-out of 28 keys. you have trades mixed up terribly.
I wasn't talking about the sale you used for this suggestion although that is what is looks like :P
But you completely ignored a sale on the grounds of 'this is confusing and i don't want to deal with it.'
not ignored, there was a 2 day gap in history so sale was untraceable
something like this happened to me on my first suggestion you should look at it
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5523ceacba8d884b248b4cc7
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55242b6aba8d88a2538b4684
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/553d8366ba8d8826688b4929
well thats some-what consoling. :-) but frustratin nevertheless
Counter price suggestion was made trying to undermine this one, but it uses incorrect prices that were listed at the time of the trades and were older than this sale
Anything younger than 3 months is a valid sale
Do you even know the rules for Unusual Pricing?
Plus you need at least 2 sales if there are 2 usable
seems in order. upvoting
Steam trade screenshot as requested of the trade
http://s13.postimg.org/kao9kams7/trade_proof.jpg