Suggestion: Steaming Milkman at 14 keys

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Steaming Milkman

Submitted Mon, 22 Jun 15 11:04:55 +0000 by ★ Sad Boy Hour

46.07%

16 keys

14 keys

~18 keys

steaming

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bp.tf classified listing has one for 14 keys unsold, and a couple of 16 keys unsold

Selling below 16 keys and getting even lower offers or no offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26124547

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26201087 (1 week and no offers at 14 keys)

Selling at 16 keys no offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26222200 (4 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26225559 (4 days)

you again,can't just lower the price based on b/o-s

actually it is logical, if you cant sell your hat 2 keys lower than the price for 1 week, you would think the price should be lower

You need sales to prove that the item price needs to be higher, you do not need sales to lower prices

so you are saying setting the price 2 keys under the normal price and still getting no offers for one week is normal?? http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26201087 If this is all your logic then leave pls

unusuals aren't regular items,they are harder to sell

it is rather unlogical to think someone will get 1-2 keys off bp.tf price price a month

but should all hats automatically be worth less than what they are now ? lolno

sales for higher happen even when someone else can't sell for the said price. unusual selling is based a lot on luck.

http://backpack.tf/item/1652838831 More than enough of sales

you are ignoring my point right now, and you also do not know what the prices were for the sales

And I can figure out the prices for the sales if you want.

If you can do that it would be fantastic :D

No probs, also ask the mods or admins to link you to this wonderful tool called "julia's mod/tool thingy for price suggestions"

I'll do it tomorrow, i gtg.

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/33627-user-script-compare-differences-between-inventory-snapshots-and-more/

Here's that tool. ♥

B/Os alone can only be used to drop the value on a hat if all three of these criteria are met

-You are dropping the value on the hat (you cannot raise the value on a hat based on a b/o

-You must drop the mean value of the hat by at least 15%. (i.e. You shouldn't be dropping a hat from 31 to 30 keys based on a b/o. You SHOULD be dropping the value on a hat from 100 to 50 if 50 can't sell in a month).

-The trade must have a reasonable time to mature (and must be reasonably bumped). What is reasonable varies from hat to hat. A good rule of thumb is to go by roughly 25 keys per week. So a trade for a hat <25 keys in value must be up for at least a week. A trade for a hat <50 keys must be up for at least 2 weeks. A trade for a hat <75 keys must be up for at least 3 weeks. For all other hats, the trade must be up for at least a month in order to price them based off the b/o.

this hat is 16 keys

16 - 15% = 13.5 keys

there is no 13.5 keys b/o

the homme

13-19 = 16 median

16 - 15% = 13.5

there is no 13.5 b/o.

and you are pricing it at a median of 14.5,which is about a 10% drop. just no

you are a white belt and don't understand,but that's just not how bp.tf works

there are at least 3-4 people who said you are doing things wrong. just deal with it

This is how unusuals work

A. You need 2 sales, if there are 2 usable sales younger than 3months old

B. Sellers cannot be used to lower a price unless there are NO sales younger than 3 months

To dtermine a sale jn a history, check from when the person last had a hat, then the day after, and compare what was removed/added

As musix has stated, Julias script is useful for this

3v1lcl0n3 has referenced the relevant rule here. The change is less than 15%, so it doesn't quite meet the criteria of pricing off b/os. As arbitrary as it might seem, there's a reason for doing this. If our listed price is within 15% of the suggested price, it's already pretty close. Further, we have seen in the past people consecutively dropping hats by miniscule amounts based on consecutively lowered b/os resulting in the site driving the market instead of reflecting it.