Suggestion: Massed Flies Sammy Cap at 50 keys

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~46 keys

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only 1 recent usable sale

sale 1 + unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26404236 sold at 50

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26327274 unsold at 52

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26404236 unsold at 56

~~themed because it's old and old food attracts flies~~

The sold, from what I'm seeing in the trade is that it sold in less than a week without bumping. Your two unsolds are by the same person who sold it.

if the same person has 5 trades up with the same unusual all going for 50-60 range and mostly unsold for 3 weeks+

other than the 50 one, it implies that it's difficult to sell in that range.

Rules didn't specify you can't use unsold from the same person to support a suggestion

It didn't sell for 50 keys, it was part of a bulk trade for a harvest moon team captain

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198094422522?time=1436252400 (July 7th)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198094422522?time=1436338800 (July 8th)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198094422522?time=1436252400&compare=1436338800

if b/o is lower than the sale, it is taken as the price the unusual is sold at

if b/o is higher than the sale and being used to drop a price, it can be used as supporting proof if it's a bulk trade

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5583f43cb98d880d098b4570

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/558cf947dea9e9422a8b4682

You can't just use a BO in a complex trade, that's not the same thing as capping a sale based on a BO. You're not using it as support proof, you're using it as a sale. If you're dropping based on unsold BOs then say that, don't say it's a sale at 50 (though it's not an unsold either, so idk how that would work.)

Edit: all three of your BO links were up for a day or less. How do you know 50 isn't a quicksell price?

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-guide-for-unusual-price-suggestions/

You can however use it to drop a price, whichever the case the proof is still valid since 50-60 range is unsold for 3 weeks

You can use unsold BOs to drop a price, not trades that were up less than a day. Where are you getting 3 weeks? Look at the dates they were opened and closed.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/418978,3

It's up for more than a month, just because he closes it every 3-5 days and reopen a new one doesn't mean the unusual isn't up for sale

Each trade you linked was up 1 day each. Did he open a new one everyday?

Where did you get the notion that each trade he has is up for a day each?

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55548168b98d88b12b8b45fd trades can be used to trace past trades and tally them up according to the time they were posted

and besides, if you looked at his amount of trades which has the sammy cap, it's a total of 24 trades, going by your assumption that each trade is up for a day each, it still fits the criteria

You can see the date each trade was opened and closed, the ones you linked were up 1 day each. I will do the work for you because apparently you can't be bothered.

Here is every trade and the length of time it was up (ignoring ones with BO above current price because they're irrelevant):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26404236 50 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26390391 50 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26387051 50 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26379150 50 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26374322 50 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26346062 56 keys, 3 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26343379 56 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26335756 52 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26335646 52 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26327274 52 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26318209 56 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26301669 56 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26270717 52 keys, 4 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26266452 50 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26255912 50 keys, 2 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26228553 50 keys, 3 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26198495 52 keys, 3 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26169971 53 keys, 4 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26137008 53 keys, 4 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26093688 60 keys, 5 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26092038 63 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26090529 75 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26075206 75 keys, 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26044126 63 keys, 4 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25978968 63 keys, 8 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25935418 75 keys, 5 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25879847 75 keys, 7 days

Unsold at 50 = ~11 days

Unsold at 52 = ~10 days

Unsold at 53 = ~8 days

Unsold at 56 = ~6 days

Unsold at 60 = ~5 days

Unsold at 63 = ~13 days

Unsold at 75 = ~14 days

Based on this, the suggestion is possibly fine (though it should be 2 weeks unsold at 50 to qualify as an unsold, really), but I shouldn't have to do this much work to verify your suggestion... you're the one that should be showing why it's valid, and misrepresenting it as "sold at 50" is inaccurate.

thanks, it is sold in a bulk trade with a b/o of 50, not sure if that is usable or not though

It's not a useable sale IMO, but you could make an argument for dropping based on the unsold BOs listed above.

you dont have a valid sale

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-guide-for-unusual-price-suggestions/ read this up, you don't need a valid sale to drop an outdated price. i am using the b/o rule to price it

Trades with marked scammers don't justify for proof.

Bulk deal, you can't use it as your main source of proof.

Downvote.

Also, it's preeeety obvious you're specifically targetting MY unusuals in order to make me mad. Price manipulation,it is. This suggestion just justifies that, as it is clear that you have poured zero to LITTLE effort in this suggestion,by providing only 1 sale. It looks like you were late on an appointement and had only 5 minutes to make that sugg. Jeez.

unconstructive comments are not needed like what aaron has said, http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-guide-for-unusual-price-suggestions/ , while you have the time, read this up, i am using the b/o rule to price it

its not unconstructive when its true

it's obvious that i am not random suggesting when a lot of my other suggestions got accepted yesterday

that made no sense