Suggestion: Burning Flames Bombing Run at 35 keys

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~72.5 keys

burning

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This suggestion was accepted Sat, 29 Aug 15 04:27:55 +0000 by polar.

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RECENT SALES FOR THE BURNING FLAMES BOMBING RUN

Sale 1:

Sold for Purple Confetti Tyrant's Helm (42) + 2 keys + 13 refined metal (1 key equalling 16 refined).

(42 * 0.9) - 2.81 = 34.99 rounded to 35.

Total: 35 keys.

References:

- http://imgur.com/MuU59dW

- http://imgur.com/qbSkMJQ

- http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198078192674?time=1438585200 (Aug 3rd).

- http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198078192674?time=1438758000 (Aug 6th).

Note: For the below sales, refer to: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55a17edbdea9e992218b4593

Sale 2:

Sold for Sulphurous Hermes (41).

(41*0.9) = 36.9 rounded to 37 keys.

Total: 37 keys.

Notes: This is not a particularly recent sale, but was included in order to clear up reference issues from the last suggestion.

Reference: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25826472

Sale 3

Sold for 35 keys pure.

Total: 35 keys.

Sale 4:

Sold for Strange Specialised Killstreak Australium Scattergun (32).

Total: 32 keys.

Notes: There is an evaluation approximation here, give/take a couple of keys. Given the other sales listed, this sale can be viewed as a potential outlier.

Reference: http://imgur.com/pRY6jn9

Comments & Conclusion: Some may observe that this unusual has had recent price suggestions. These suggestions have lacked certain holistic elements to them that would make it more difficult for you to make informed judgments on. Given the information above, there is enough data to accurately infer my price suggestion, and that is why I believe it is reasonable that the price should be moved to 35 keys flat.

***Apologies for not entering this screenshot of "Sale 3" - http://gyazo.com/31c923ab7ee0e81f8624157fdf8350b7

Credits to ShadowMan.

Some of your links are making 0 sense, and credits are wrong :[

Apologies for the incorrect links, I'll try fix those ones up. In the meantime, refer to: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55a17edbdea9e992218b4593

I know what are you referring to, since i provided one more sale for this before aaron.

hi me :3 , im in the 4th sale

4th sale should be included in the range, also, the sale value is clearly not 32 keys since a conga v2 + #58 was added that's approximately 5 keys

also, you don't have any proof for your 3rd sale

Sale #3 - refer to previous suggestion, i provided the links&shit, he is plain lazy :|

Sale #4 - eh, craft numbers... 5 keys, hah, i can't sell mine #59 for even two, so i wouldn't assume that value.

Thanks for your posts. I have posted proof for Sale 3 immediately under my suggestion and have also provided you with a reference to the prior price suggestion (which is recent); totaling to two instances of having shown proof. With regard to Sale 4, I have expressed that it is an outlier because its influence in this suggestion makes up only 25% of the sales (outweighed 75% by almost identical value sales). I also feel that Sale 4's price is more of a subjective matter (refer to your use of the word approximately as an example), which accounts for all the inclusions to the Scattergun as well as the pricing of a craft number item that do not have clear pricings. I have aimed to provide both a fair and reasonable evaluation of the unusual. Including a sale with the current problematic properties and subjective uncertainties that Sale 4 has would be nonsensical to me, and I hope to the voters.

i don't see how it could be an outlier since it's only a few keys away from your suggested price, it's not like there is a huge difference

I believe my wording was, "can be viewed as a potential outlier", not that it is an outlier (explicitly). I say this because the overall value of the items in that trade have no clear pricing and are subject to different interpretive evaluations. I believe the owner of the Bombing Run from Sale 4 was offered the scattergun; which would therefore result in the reduction of the scattergun's already interpretive value by a further 10% (without the inclusion of the other items). Viewing the scores of all the sales: 37, 35, 35, 32*, and then drawing attention to the non-revised lowest value seems like nit-picking to me. That's fine with me, but I have already talked to some admins about this price suggestion, who in their opinion view this suggestion as passing. If you still disagree against all of the above evidence and reasoning, then I would ask: All things considered, is it reasonable to value the Unusual Bombing Run with Burning Flames at 35 keys?

a range would probably be better to include the 4th sale

I disagree, and for the same reason I excluded the '37 key sale'. Are we done? I am required to defend my suggestion, but wish to no longer divulge more of my time doing so when everything needed for a reasonable and successful price suggestion has been supplied.

the 37 key sale can't be used anyways since it's outdated

Can't be used? Do you think it is going to matter whether or not it can be used when people can see it? It doesn't matter whether it can or cannot be used, because people already know that it fields these types of offers. Sounds odd to exclude something that, technically speaking, is evidence and has not been used in a completed sales suggestion ever. Is that what you want to tell people, and allude, that this suggestion is invalid because of that? Well, I can and have already told you, that this suggestion already has admin approval. You also read the same suggestion from a different admin that gave the unusual pricing the nod at 35, which mind you, still included the 37 key sale tacitly. Additionally, I am confident that I have presented a suggestion that is beyond reasonable in achieving the ambitions I put forward. I'm not sure where you are going with this regress argument of yours, maybe you have a bone to pick.. Who knows. But since it is a regress argument, it can be considered spam. And spam breaches certain rules on this website, and of general etiquette.

fair enough

I guess it's close enough.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26554449 - the sale at 35

Outliers are defined by deviation from the mean. Range probably should be 32-35