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Fixing the range

Creds to [Mr]_Le_Terminator for helping me


Sale 1 :

Before : http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198039260350?time=1439103600

After : http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198039260350?time=1439362800

Sold for a Sunbeams Professional's Panama : 48 keys


Mini on the panama :

Before : http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198043614216?time=1436338800

After : http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198043614216?time=1436425200

Sold for a Circling Heart Pugilist's Protector ( 25 ) + a Purple Confetti Ye Olde Baker Boy ( 28 ) : 53 * 0.9 = 48 keys


Sale 2 : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26629725 Outlier

Before : http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001771869?time=1438239600

After : http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001771869?time=1439362800

Sold for a Burning Flames Professional's Panama ( 53 ) + spec ks aussie sniper ( 48 ) : 53 * 0.9 + 48 = 96 keys


Sale 3 :

Before : http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198087125768?time=1437980400

After : http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198087125768?time=1438153200

Sold as well as a Stormy 13th Hour Brigade Helm ( 100 ) + 15 keys + 7 keys in items for a Purple Energy Modest Pile of Hat ( 175 ) : 175 - 122 = 53 keys


Calling sale 2 an outlier because of how far apart it is from the other 2 sales.

Thus taking the range of 48-53 keys


Supportive criticism welcome

    I don't have any proof, but IMO, DaD is lower than Sunbeams. For it to do 1:1 to Sunbeams is like a free upgrade. If this is higher than a Sunbeams, it won't be making sense.

    I believe the current price is more suitable than this one, and as Randy has said, it's often inaccurate to use much expensive hats to price cheaper ones.

    Well, this is just an opinion from me. Closing or not is up to you. :P

It not best use Much higher tier hats to price lower ones. You get a very skewed value. Here Sale #3 should not be used.

    It was already used in the last suggestion, He used the pe modest suggestion as his mini and forgot to change the value

    http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55f24111b98d8881458b45a7

    Don't see why the modest should be taken at 175. The current suggestion for it has a lot of uncertainty due to it being a <5% change. Also, that suggestion is only being posted due to a very recent pure sale - at the time of sale 3 here, the modest was definitely closer to 165 than 175, valuewise.

      Not using that suggestion, Im using the suggestion that was used to price this. Which was this one http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55d126a5b98d88291a8b456e. If I am wrong to fix this price in this suggestion than the first suggestion should have never been accepted

        The suggestion you're referring to was closed automatically because another suggestion ( http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55e7abb2b98d88e07c8b45c8 ) was accepted in its place, and that's more accurate.

          Yes indeed but 30 days ago it wasnt closed and it was used to price this unusual

            Yes, but that suggestion is incorrect. It shouldn't be used.

                Then why are you taking 175 when 164 is far more accurate? The PE Modest is recently updated at 165, and the new suggestion is literally breaking guidelines. The previous suggestion is close enough.

                  because 30 days ago that suggestion didnt exist All im doing is changing the value of the modest which he didnt do in the previous suggestion and I talked to him and he said I could fix it

                    Yes, but the sales used from the newer suggestion were roughly 1-2 months old, and reflect the value of the Modest at the time of sale 3 more accurately than the new suggestion...

      http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55f24111b98d8881458b45a7 - this is exactly why it's not a good idea to use higher tier hats to price lower tier ones


      Value on the modest being off by 10 keys doesn't make any difference. This being off by 10 keys makes a much bigger difference. This should be used to price the modest instead of the other way around. Could be 48 flat here. But I don't think 48-53 is any better than 42-48