Suggestion: Eerie Orbiting Fire Pyromancer's Mask at 109–126 keys

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~450 keys

eerie

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This suggestion was closed Thu, 10 Sep 15 20:04:13 +0000 by polar.

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http://imgur.com/0IgQT2r

I paid 276,57€

buyer recieved 240,50€

keys are 2,19€ in the mann co store on the day of purchase

makeing it: low end 109,8 keys (rounded down) and high end 126,2 keys(rounded down)

range is there since it's a market purchase so it should be done acording to the rules.

only 4 of this item and i am abit of a collector so proof should be suffecient.

the only other one on the market is only being sold as part of a set: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22371146

just in case somebody should bring it up therefor it should't be valid.

what

so far my suggestions have been unusuals transfered via the community market that i purchased this should have been done correctly and since only 4 of this exsists then it should be suffecient proof.

no seriously. what

you're welcome to do the math yourself if you don't understand.

there are other sales http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26620139

the only other one is being sold as part of a set and isn't even being put a price on here is that trade http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22371146

the one you linked is to a crone's dome alredy closed trade.

Yes, the Crone's sold for the Pyromancer's + Waxy

and look at the guy who got it? he is the guy i bought it from should't the newest price on the same item then be the one in consideration?

would be odd if you took and older price for the same exact item as in by id and all here's the history: http://backpack.tf/item/1211334180

pro-tip, edit button exists

Unusable, as the Crone's is 130, and the Waxy is ~70

109,8=110

it worked on my previous accepted market suggestion to round it down it's better to round down then to round up in these cases in my opinion.

Suggestions never get closed due to rounding issues, that's why. In this case, you should round to 110 (it's what 99% of people would do) but again, you won't get grilled too hard for it. Just keep it in mind for the future :P

yeh i think i will keep rounding it down i am not greedy(it's always better imo to round down) i just really want my backpack to be more pricy wish i could also price suggest my unusual weapons could probably get abit closer up in the top 1000 backpacks that way.

"yeh i think i will keep rounding it down i am not greedy"

you being greedy isn't the issue, you pricing inaccurately would be the issue

Last suggestion's sale is still valid, range should be 105-125.

technicaly not look at the item history it's the same item.

...the same item can sell more than once.

Do you actually know how suggestions work? Do you want a hand?

well it's the same item and it's a month old i don't see why i cannot suggest a price like this?

i mean okey if it were another unusual with more of it maybe you're right but the sales on this just seems to have increased from the one price you suggest as part of the range.

Like magenta said, just because it's the same item does not invalidate its sale. And any sale under 3 months is valid.

hmmm i can see that but it seems odd to me when it's the same item that seemingly have increased in sale price from sale to sale in the last month

in any case, it's not like he is saying you are 30 keys off. there is no need to be overly defensive,just resuggest at 105-125.

sorry if i come up as overly defensive i am just very firm in my descisions and i do not agree with this guy at all. i also think it might be since he have the previous suggestion that he feels more attached to it or something? or atleast haveing it as part of a new price range.

look eh,i'm not in his fanclub. but he has a decent argument. all sales under 3 months have to be considered,as per bp.tf rules.

so that also counts if it's for these low in number rare unusuals and it's the same unusual? would't his suggestion then maybe be considered a quicksale compared to this?

sadly no, because it took quite some time to sell

and either way,it's 109-126 vs 105-125

in any event,i wouldn't be surprised if mods accept this due to being close enough.

"Sales older than 2 months old are not valid proof; this does not mean that they are not useful. Feel free to include them to provide supplemental proof. Just don't rely on them to set your range.

Exceptions: For very rare hats, if there have only been 1-2 sales in the last 3 months, a trade up to 3 months old is okay to use as proof to establish more data points. Keep in mind, new sales should take precedence over older ones."

a guy posted that abit below read the last bit. so i do belive i am correct in this newer sale of the item takes priority.

going off your reasoning there is a clear contradiction

For very rare hats, if there have only been 1-2 sales in the last 3 months

it's obvious that one sale would be younger. so by default it would allow only 1 trade up to 3 months.

anyways,that claim is there if for example there is a high difference in price. ie a hat sold for 100 keys 2.5 months ago and 150 keys recently.

still close to up to a 20% diffrence and by how i read it i think i am correct especialy since there is only 4 of these hats and it's the same hat that been sold alot recently.

20% ? the difference between 105-125 and 109 - 126 is 2.5 keys. so about 2%

we are talking about the sales. 105keys as the old suggestion were from one sale towards 109-126 from what 2-20% diffrence or so.

look eh,your suggested range is 109-126. you don't look at the median in that case. 105 is close to 109,it's not an outlier.

i am all for pricing hats higher,but you have to admit when you are wrong lol.

i am just saying that i belive something and let it be up to the admins then. and yes as i said about 2% down there but the higer range is all the way up around 20% ish

109 is also far away from 126 and you are using it

bah,you just have no sensible argument and go in circles. i'm done here. they'll accept either way for being close enough.

But the range i set is because of community market being part of the tradeing of the item. acording to the rules low end must be what seller got and high end must be what i paid.

when it's to be takeing into consideration as priceing it.

and nobody has an issue with that. THERE IS ANOTHER SALE

iT HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

sigh

I thought they changed it to 2months

Did they? Hmm they must of updated that part from the last time I checked.

Depends on the hat. If it's rare, then sales up to 3 months old could be used.

"Sales older than 2 months old are not valid proof; this does not mean that they are not useful. Feel free to include them to provide supplemental proof. Just don't rely on them to set your range.

the last part is what i were talking about ^^ "Keep in mind, new sales should take precedence over older ones."

you suggested the last one? if you're so sure in your descesion of what you're saying you can just post one of these again with what you think and link it to this suggestion for proof even though it would be an unfair move.

People are free to counter suggest if they feel that another suggestion is incorrect, as long as they credit their proof to the appropriate people if it applies; it's not "unfair" to do so since the point of suggestions is to try and be as accurate as possible to an items pricing.

yeh true i ment it would't be a fair move towards me but i am pointing the person out that he is free to do such right? am i not?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26685936 - b/o of 105 keys

Payment over 105 is overpay by definition. Suggestion here will need to be 105 flat, which matches the previous sale on this as well.