Suggestion: Scorching Flames Mann of Reason at 100 keys

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~82 keys

scorch

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This suggestion was closed Sun, 20 Sep 15 20:41:31 +0000 by the submitter.

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Sale

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26927637

Offered and sold with 40 keys on a dusk wraith wrap

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198090793726?time=1441695600

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198090793726?time=1441782000

Wrap is being updated : http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55eb63dadea9e9981c8b456b

145- 40 = 105..Had a b/o of 100. Taking 100.

Price: 100 keys

Why use this sale to price the reason instead of Wrap?

1. Only one mann of reason exists. And the person I sold it to doesnt intend to sell it.

2. The wrap was also sold for a pro ks houwar, clean. While the price cant be determined exactly, its going to be higher than regular one. (Also sold for a misty cannonball)

Why not use the previous value to make a range since the suggestion was made only 12 days ago?

1. Even though the suggestion was made 12 days ago, the trade was almost one and a half month ago.

2. That seller had an offer of 75 keys.

3. The owner doesn't intend to sell it, and this is the only one of its kind making this more of a report sale suggestion.

4. Frankly, I dont want his hat to be bogged down with a previous sale when the latest and possibly the last sale (till another is unboxed) is higher than that.

I still think the other sale should be included. 1 1/2 months is only half of the valid time for sales on rare hats.

Well yeah, if we're looking at only that, sure. But since the guy doesnt want to resell it, isnt this the authoritative sale? Similar to if the suggestion had been put up one month from now when the previous sale would have become too old to use?

imo the sale from my old sugg should be used, and as a hint, your reason of why not to include my sale, reason 4, has nothing to do with the value of a hat. Last sale possibly ever or not.

In like a week or so the previous valid sale for this will have been 2 months ago.

Yeah because its being dragged along, forcing something to get outdated because you may feel too strongly about its priced isnt making it accurate. You should re-suggest at 77-100. If not i have no problem doing it myself, accuracy is more important that feelings.

Please, don't talk to me about backpack and accuracy. And riddle me this, if I hadnt made this suggestion, and instead waited for a couple weeks more, or heck, long enough that your previous suggestion became invalid, would it still be itching you? I presume not. How is this any different? The guy isn't selling it. Sufficient time has passed between two sales, and there is enough price difference between the two sales.

If a mod gives a proper explanation as to why it still should be a range, i'll re suggest. I'm not doing it based on your threat, or whatever that was. I was hoping woifi would do that, but he apparently forgot about this. So yeah.

Ok I guess here we go.

Your arguments:

1. As I said, thats not too old for a rare hat.

2. That doesnt counterproof 77 keys, quite the opposite, seems like its a good low end.

3. That just makes the 77 key sale more important to include.

4. That may be true on some god tiers or when the difference is huge, imo not the case here.

I dont care how you too sort it out, maybe Randy is nice and closes his suggestion so you can resuggest but seeing how you two talk to each other I doubt that. :P

Nah, i'm too keen on sorting it out with the likes of him. I'll close this so he can have his precious points. Still think the only reason this is getting docked down to 80+ as average is because i was naive enough to report the sale when it happened, which is strangely ironic. If i had waited for a few weeks, none of this would have happened. But whatever.