Suggestion: Scorching Flames Charmer's Chapeau at 250 keys

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~210 keys

scorch

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Hello. I sold one of my Scorching Flames Charmer's Chapeaus (yes I have two of them) for an itemoffer.

I will try to reprice that and do some maths, if I make a mistake please let me know to resuggest as this is my first calculated pricing.

Thanks ^^

It took me less then 5 Days to get good offers and sell it for that amount.

The hat is way too underpriced as its rare, I was the only seller.

So here we go:

I sold my black Scorching Flames Charmer's Chapeau for:

-) Blizzardy Storm Teamcaptain (75-80 Keys)

-) It's A Secret To Everybody Fruit Shoot (80 Keys)

-) Sulphurous Wraith Wrap (140-150 Keys)

Screenshots:

http://i.imgur.com/5Ydi7Z9.png

http://i.imgur.com/vF3jhSF.png

http://i.imgur.com/IhdMSRN.png

http://i.imgur.com/Nkh9yRa.png

I'll value them in average as:

Teamcaptain: 77 Keys

Fruit Shoot: 80 Keys

Wraith Wrap: is a bit harder one as its a very old price (~150 Keys) and a pricevoting is active for it.

So I will take the current pricevoting value as it was the latest sale 117–136 Keys ---> 126 Keys.

So I have 77+80+126 = 283x0,9 overpay = 254,7 rounding down to 250 Keys.

No range as none others on sale, so suggesting 250 Keys flat.

Wich surpasses burning Charmers Chapeau alot. But well ^____^ Scorching just looks awesome.

I put one of my two Chapeus on sale (both dupes btw) few days ago and took that offer within not even 4 Days as it was on sale.

One of the best spysets and with the green flames most likely better matching for loadouts then the burning version - or burning just has no tracked highvalue sales in the last weeks and where sold hidden I dont know I havent watched it.

Anyways I hope my price calculation is correct :D

Chapeau in buyers backpack: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198020936093/inventory#440_2_4150993137

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198020936093

Cheers =D

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27073167 - your b/o was 160 keys

Yes and that trade got closed, I was looking around that actually at the beginning but well things turned different as I got high itemoffers, I set my B/O to undefined to see what comes in.

Also what matters is what it actually got sold for as i was looking for 160 pure as a quicksell first, then was offered very nicely and not intendet to sell for 160 pure anymore and waited for some nice offers.

Your trade didnt look like a quicksell trade. Also tc and fruit shot are outdated as well. What about other sales, I see you bought another one again.

If you would read what I wrote in the text aboth you where Ive done the pricing, you know all about it.

What about other sales in the past 3 months? How much did you pay for both of yours?

howmuch do u buy ur stuff for resale? :D non of interest as it was a banking.

an in rare stuffs i pay more then official price in pure to get things like unusual taunts to resell for even way more as I look for potential underpriced NICE items - so i can tell i payed over the official price for the hats and that has to be enough for ya.

So we have to find out ourselves with item histories?^^ If it was a quicksale it would be an outlier anyways.

I could also upvote the hat with my buyins :) I got one of them as an overpay for one of my items and bough the other one for about 200 keys.

Its not upvote, its raising the price. And yes this surely needs a range then. 250 keys flat wont be good enough.

for the value i said its the first mixed pricing im doing as i normally sell for pure only - and maybe needs a bit help to get the correct value :D

the buyins are something different - its a difference between getting one item multiple times then selling to someone that wants to wear it ingame. thats why I dont really value my buyins - or every other unusual suggestion has to be repriced again - imagine you sell one hat and you have non of that one left - do you suggest ur buyin aswell?

Its only because I have another one at the moment, that people are hating gelly and trolling.

But when you see my other votings ive done they scored into the minus range and were accepted anyways. Because valid sales to people that dont resell/bank an item has to be counted.

Same with australium weapon banking: on an aussi scatter wich sells for 34 keys you would have to start a pricevoting aswell then because the australium bankers buy scatters for 30 or maybe 32 keys and sell for 34 multiple times.

Do you see my logic? :)

the one u traded is duped

as far as i know dupes matter in downvotes, not in upvotes.

I also said its a dupe in the pricetext.

what are you talking about?

To raise a price its fine to use dupes, is what he meant.

yes :) downvoting an hat because a duped one has been sold for under its value is discusseable as some people count dupes as less worthy. in raising it only kinda says the unduped is again more - or at least equal to a duped higher then official sale.

oh i see, but you still need to provide mini's for the outdated hats

how come you sold your charmer then bought it back?

"yes I have two of them"

~Xerye | trade.tf

Thanks steaknation.

Those are dupes, they have the same item id - one is black one is green painted thats why I linked the inventoryitem and not the itemhistory as the two hats share the same historylink and might be a bit confusing then as you cant see the difference between them.

Once again before a hater or toll comments here agin - my text in pricing is to be READ so read it and dont ask or comment stuff I allready mentioned multiple times in the maintext at the beginning. Spares much time. lol :D

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26340111 Sold for 170 keys pure, a clean one.

Funny to see so much hate. Best spy hat/effect.

thanks uro :) Im familliar with haters esp on rare things like that :D but i like it.

It's not hate, you made a bad suggestion so it's constructive criticism

and what exactly is a bad suggestion here :D just because its a kinda big valuestep?

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55de63e7b98d887c4f8b4644

Suggestion has passed, you can probably make a new one. Cheers

thanks for the info! :) i allready took the value of the new sulph pricing as it was in progess while i made this one here :D

Few things:

- Woifilicious is a moderator so you should listen to him (or her, don't know).

- You can't price outdated unusuals for "what you value them". You have to make minis for each of them to find the real price. Proof >>>>>>>> opinions.

- You need to take in account other recent sales to support your suggestion, not just the one you want/like.

- This is constructive criticism, not hate.

yes :D and i said its my first pricing with calculations and asked for help :) so if I can do something better tell me how and not that this suggestion sucks lol :D I want an accurate price and this here was a start of it.

A few issues here.

First in terms of your value on each item. The wraith value at 140-150 is based on sales 2 years ago. You need to prove that it is worth that much now. A new suggestion for that was recently accepted at 120-135. That's much more representative of the value of the hat at the time of the sale. The blizz TC is also probably high with clean sellers at 70 and 71 keys. Fruit shoot is outdated too. You are valuing that at 80 keys here but there are sellers at 60 and 70. Even if we price these based on b/os alone (which we shouldn't), you are overvaluing the hats by about 50 keys here.

The other issue here is that there have been other sales. We give values to unusuals based all the data available, not just a single sale. A clean sale at 160 keys should be factored into the range.