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He was advertising on Outpost, selling for 110 pure or 135 mix. I offered Harvest Moon Lid (100 key BP.TF value) + 10 keys pure. He added me and he accepted my trade offer once his item was tradable. Value 100 + 10 = 110
Screenshots: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rxtnjvlftdolxz2/AABCOWcQAR-5_4GFPDoYd7Rga?dl=0
As of this price suggestion, according to BP.TF there are only 2 strange c9 rotations. The other one is on OP and the unboxer is asking "200 keys or best offer". From the looks of my BP, it should be noted I am a selective c9 unusual collector so I have no immediate plans to resell any of my c9 items. I feel non-strange c9 rotation sales should not be a factor as strange are more rare. Although the Lid is outdated there are only 2 that exist.
WaMi http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26987052
SS of WaMi: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vql0nhade7cqbbo/wami.JPG?dl=0
"As of this price suggestion, according to BP.TF there are only 2 strange c9 rotations." - PyroProtectMe | Rep.TF
Erm, you suggested a price for a non-strange Cloud 9 Rotation Sensation.
I clicked on my item in my inv. and made the BP.TF price suggestion. So it's a BP.TF issue not my fault. As you can see here the "strange" quality are with the "non-strange" quality. http://backpack.tf/unusuals/Rotation%20Sensation So it is up to BP.TF to further index/itemize/segregate using the TF2 item schema to accommodate for this.
You're already stretching the pricing by using only one sale as opposed to two. Using an outdated hat in even that is just going overboard. Not to mention that this is the regular variant of the sensation.
I clicked on my item in my inv. and made the BP.TF price suggestion. So it's a BP.TF issue not my fault. As you can see here the "strange" quality are with the "non-strange" quality. http://backpack.tf/unusuals/Rotation%20Sensation So it is up to BP.TF to further index/itemize/segregate using the TF2 item schema to accommodate for this.
The thing here is you are using a more valuable item to price a less valuable item. The Strange version is much more valuable than the non-Strange because it doesn't have a strangifier. That just can't be done.
Plus the facts that you didn't apply overpay and the Harvest Lid is 1 year outdated and needs a mini-suggestion.
You said, "The thing here is you are using a more valuable item to price a less valuable item." What is the "less valuable item?". Who or where does it say the c9 strange sensation is worth less? Also I agree with you that " Strange version is much more valuable than the non-Strange". But as I explained BP.TF does not have an index for strange hats. Did you even read what I said? "I clicked on my item in my inv. and made the BP.TF price suggestion. So it's a BP.TF issue not my fault. As you can see here the "strange" quality are with the "non-strange" quality. http://backpack.tf/unusuals/Rotation%20Sensation So it is up to BP.TF to further index/itemize/segregate using the TF2 item schema to accommodate for this."
You didn't understand what i said. The most valuable is the Strange version of the hat, i think that's clear. The point is you are using a sale involving a Strange unusual to price the non-Strange unusual, therefore giving the non-Strange a value clearly higher than it is (it's clearly not worth 110 keys as B/Os on Outpost show).
The Strange can't be priced right now and we (bp.tf users) can't do anything about it. You can't just price the non-Strange the wrong way and blame it on bp.tf.
oh I see what you are saying, that is more clear to me. What I need to clarify is when I made this suggestion, I had no idea that it did not identify my item as +strange until after the fact. yes so this need to be closed until there is a separate +strange identifier.
Closed until BP.TF has a separate identifier for +strange unusual hats.
1. Lid is outdated, need mini
2. You offered, so apply overpay
3. Unpriced unusual, need 2 sales to price
He did the suggestion (obvious) and offered then there is no overpay rule, at least what Roller told me.http://backpack.tf/vote/id/560da000ba8d886559a41c3c Look at the spartan sale, I had to apply overpay although he offered.Although you're right about point 1 and 3What are you taking about ? You applied overpay on the spartan because it was offered on the bonnet which was being priced. Same situation here. Overpay needs to be applied in the lid since it was offered on the sensation which is being priced.
I always screw these kind of things up, rip me
No overpay rule if unusual is offered on.
Dont need 2 sales if the current owner does not want to resell (but 2 is still recommended).
The only thing wrong here is the Lid mini.
6 C9 rotations, bound to be more than 1 sale - http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,4145371783,30623,5 - Might be 1 sale there
you don't apply overpay when its offered...
Overpay needs to be applied in the lid since it was offered on the sensation which is being priced.
- The Wind Wanker
Cant price with 1 sale and definitely not this price when there are 4 on sale. 1 has a 90 key bo and another has 100
his hat is strange btw
Oh, you're right. Well in that case this suggestion is even more invalid since he's trying to price the non-strange one with a strange sale.
If you offered on the Rotation, then overpay has to be applied.
Unusuals that can be unboxed with the dual-strange quality are invalid in price suggestions unless they are 1 of 1.
seller at 90
and only 1 sale, im sorry you need more sales.
you need a mini on the harvest Moon lid
Closed until BP.TF has a separate identifier for +strange unusual hats.