Suggestion: Searing Plasma Potassium Bonnet at 169 keys

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~622 keys

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🍌You can say this price is going bananas!🍌

🍌Proof of sale🍌

Unboxer = http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198035969198

Buyer = http://backpack.tf/u/76561198126818711

Picture proof of the sale ↓↓↓

http://puu.sh/kCKX2/d8f4791fbc.png

Banana hat Sold for

Circling Peace Sign Bonk Boy ~ 43 keys + Circling Peace Sign Mountebank's Masque ~ 50 keys + Cool Turbine Torcher Flamethrower Well Worn ~ 8 keys??? + Strange Australium

Killstreak Scattergun ~ 34 keys + Specialized Killstreak Max's Severed Head ~ 53 Keys?? (specialized being 15 keys)

Cool Turbine Torcher = http://puu.sh/kCLz6/0aa18cb0ed.jpg ; Sold for roughly 8 keys ~wtf?

MonteBank's Masque = http://puu.sh/kCLtP/8a141a6e97.jpg ; Sold for Green Energy Baker's boy + B.M.O.C

Specliazed killstreak = http://puu.sh/kCLnb/c08d3516cb.jpg ; 30 / $2 = 15 keys

🍌MINIS🍌

(10/03/2015) Bonk Boy ~ http://puu.sh/kDbGP/aee69b77c5.png ~ Traded 92 keys, obtained Smoking Belt ~ 21 + Max's Head ~ 28 and Bonk boy; resulted in 43 keys

(10/03/2015) Baker's boy http://puu.sh/kDc5U/79500fba2d.png ~ Traded 80 keys in mixed, obtained 23 keys + steaming Gatsby + Bakers Boy; resulted in 45 keys

188 * 0.9 = 169.2 keys (overpay)

Regardless of whether or not the suggested value makes sense:

Your minis are fairly wonky. It is best to investigate the trades further, as many of these screenshots clearly involved more than one trade.

For instance: I dont have the bptf links, but I can assure you that the spec max from your bonk mini was involved in that same trade. The belt is likely not involved though. THe baker mini was likely 2 or 3 different sales; multiple hats, keys on both ends (Im also confused where the value comes from by comparing the contents, but thats a different story). The mini on that turbine torcher may not even have been a sale.

In general, you should provide backpack history links before and after, so that it is easy for moderators and other suggesters to check if the sales truly happened.

In the main sale: None of the items shown go to the banana seller:

http://backpack.tf/item/3505255842

http://backpack.tf/item/4129839904

http://backpack.tf/item/3946677361

http://backpack.tf/item/234277924

http://backpack.tf/item/3214985935

Sellers bp:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198126818711?time=1443980881 before

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198035969198?time=1443855600 after

Other than that, it is apparent that the user has no trading experience, based on his bp value and his trade history:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/1085717

The offer he received was on the day he put it up for sale (which was also the only moment it has been for sale even), so the offer of the arcana mohawk is from around the time this sale happened. If offers from that time mean nothing, then it would be weird if the sale does matter.

Finally, two sales should be used to properly establish the value of an unpriced hat. If no other sales appear, you'd have to wait until this sale matures (so until it is more than a month old) or until it sells again.

The guy with a strange one is going to feel really silly for not taking the offer of a Clean Cloudy Moon Crones + Clean Cloudy Moon Beak + Clean Moon Armored Authority at some point.

Also, might want to just round to 170, but not a big issue.

Edit: Looking over the other comments I have to agree this is a low outlier

I would but who doesn't love 69 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) AND HOLY SHIT CLOUDY MOON CRONES!

id be really bummed if i was that guy. that crones + beak combo :kreygasm:

lol ikr, he should have taken advantage of the hype, also this is not steam the emoticons don't work here.( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

i know emotes dont work ;) at least we still have good ol lenny ʕง͠° ͜ʖ °ʔง

Agreed. ʕง͠° ͜ʖ °ʔง

Show me proof of the sharking, and honestly 169 seems like an ok price, There is a difference between strange and normal after all.

Wait so this guy brokered the purchase for the buyer, looks like it sold for... what? I don`t get what you are saying m8.

never mind. looks like he lied to me about brokering it

ill pay 200 pure 4 dis rn

Something tells me the cool turbine torcher sale was an outlier?

Maybe, tbh in my opinion unusual weapons kinda should be priced lowly, I don`t like dem :P

~~opinions =/= proof~~ :^)

no, but it does look like an outlier and you can't just settle with that because you don't like them

I know Ill try and find more sales, if I do find some worth significantly more I will update, also jun you failed to give me evidence just as any other person who is yelling shark.

https://backpack.tf/vote/?creator=76561198111273937&state=0

"failed to give evidence" no need to attack me with insults :^)

Still doesn't mean that your mini alone should make it worth that much. Probably a lot more sales on cool turbine torchers that are more than 8 keys, I would suggest using a different sale to make the mini for it as this one really seems like an outlier.

This price is way too low, considering the offers he actually got.

Any proof of the offers? Maybe they were given during the hype? For example when the burning rotation sensation was unboxed you could have sold it for 2000 keys now try selling for 500.

Look on the trade, was offered $1500, 1300 keys in unusuals, etc.

Link to it, and was this banana 1 of 1, because again the hearts rotation is a perfect example of how a week is a difference between 400 and 150 keys.

do you have any proof of the rotation offers?

if you're too lazy to give links of offers yourself, why do you repeatedly tell us to do it

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27142408

Arcana Mohawk at 425 keys and a Stormy Storm Cardbeard + Sweets, each 1 week ago

definitely too low

Was 1 of 1 then I think. 1 of 1 = Better offers. Also one week in gun mettle unusuals tends to be old :c. With the hearts rotation, at first people were offering 400, one week later they were no longer willing to pay even half that price.

do you have proof of such an offer :^)

I wonder why that sounds so familiar

I do, simply go to the hearts rotation and check outpost, I know this since i was selling mine for weeks.

This is 1 of 1, the other one is strange and one is untradable.

Your defences are getting weaker and weaker and your position less valid - this suggestion is invalid.

then backpack.tf showing two normal ones is clearly wrong.

"one is untradable"

-Magneta, posted 2 minutes ago-

Point being it negates your "more common on the market therefore cheaper" point, this is still 1 of 1 on the market, just as when those offers were made.

If you want to wait for a mod to close this and lose rep that's fine, or you can do it yourself now and save them the hassle.

you're the same guy that's asking 350 keys for a d@d tipped lid kekarino

you'd trade that lid for this in a heart beat

170 is way too low for this

I wouldnt give my lid for this, i sincerely believe in the price i put.

That's great.

NOBODY ELSE DOES. And whether you "believe" it or not doesn't matter.

The offers prove this invalid. End. Of.

By "nobody else" you mean 4 people, of which one succeeded in providing any kind of proof.

Everybody who offered way higher than this also disagrees with you implicitly.

you believe in 65 keys more than full price

best trader 10/10

65 keys i wonder were you got that number. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

easy.

d@d tipped lid is 250 on backpack.tf. you're asking for 315.

315-250=65

(and if you couldn't tell, I was referring to your classifieds sell order)

The price was based on my purchase, I got such a big discount as a favor from my friend, I do not find that price fair for that reason.

I never thought I could read so much polarity in a single comment

cant wait for this to sell for like 600+ keys and you eat your words lol

anyways, that's all I have to say, I'd close this

When it sells for that they can change the price, I gave proof of a sale, I hear people who cry shark but any proof!? The cloudy crones was offered on a strange one, big difference.

ALL the difference. If you don't understand the market, don't price the unusual. Close this.

I have successfully been trading for a year, I have seen plenty of examples when strange All Class unusuals are valued way hiigher than normal ones.

Yeah, but not ten times higher when both instances are 1 of 1.

just because you're an experienced trader clearly doesn't make you a good suggester :^)

we countered your proof with offers

you just keep repeating the same bullshit:

"one week later, they won't even accept half"

As always what I say most is feed me more proof in return I get more meaningless words. :P

No more proof is needed. ALL the necessary proof, which is higher offers and no more, has been given, you're just ignoring it and talking in circles.

Agreed.

For the guys who just got here. I don't need 1 week old offers, when I was selling my hearts rotation; buyers who gave offers one week ago would no longer pay even half that price.

The offers are still valid because this item's position on the market is the same.

The hearts rotation has changed value, sure. All the other offers that far exceed this price haven't.

Give up. You're wrong. Accept it.

Well then give me some proof like a few trades some newer offers,

I don't NEED never offers because, AS I SAID, this is still one of one. The other offers, unlike your hearts rotation, of which more were unboxed, ARE STILL VALID.

You're bordering on trolling, now, this is ridiculous.

then by your logic, this sale should already be outdated

Well its what I got, and if this sale was 1000 keys then yes I would not make it, but 169 seems like a fair base price which will most likely go up.

for the past couple of minutes, youve been saying shit like

"maybe its the hype. they lower in like a week"

then you say "169 seems like a fair base price which will most likely go up"

you're only contradicting yourself

Honestly just leave, if this fails it fails.

got ahead of myself, I forgot about your proof

your minis for the max head and the flame thrower are both invalid

and the minis for the unusuals have no proof that they line up and sold for them

Even if we say that the sale isn't an outlier (which it is), you still don't have enough proof of the items involved in the sale and the minis you used. This suggestion is invalid in all possible ways.

I'm going to say that this was sharked haha.

hey i am the owner i can tell you that the person offered the banana on me also with enough proof i also got offers over 1000 keys so i can even show you screen shots from there if you don't believe go add the guy, also i assure you that he had many other good offers but went for mine http://imgur.com/kxNTOMC <-- first second-->http://imgur.com/3WludmV the second is his profile

wait, this is still up? how? mods, what are you doing?

It's valid to say that this sale is an outlier for three reasons:

1, It was a shark.

2, naknak is actively buying potassium bonnetts of ANY effect for 200 Keys(and honestly, i'd also pay 170 keys pure easily for this).

3, You need two sales.

Downvote.

Looks like it was an outlier. Your comparison to the hearts rotation isn't really a fair one because the rotation is a common unbox. This is such a rare unbox that value gets preserved.