Suggestion: Circling Heart Milkman at 40 keys

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~58 keys

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All Credit's goes to King of all kats + Teny tiny cat. just changed few thingys here* (thanks karma)

Sale #1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27019934 B/o Non

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198058834083?time=1442197175

Strange Australium Sniper Rifle = 33 (outlier aswell?) not using

Sale #2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27243560 B/o 32 keys

Sold for b/o in less than a minute. (quicksold.)

Sale #3

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198242237658?time=1444287600 (October 8th)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198242237658?time=1444460400 (October 10th)

Steaming Lord Cockswain's Pith Helmet = 10

Blizzardy Storm Villain's Veil = 55

55 - 10 = 45*0.9

= 40.5 ~ 40

Mini: Steaming Lord Cockswain's Pith Helmet

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27190553

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197988330806?time=1444244889

sold for 9 keys + 1 key in sweets.

9 + 1 = ~10

Not sure who told you Sale #1 was an outlier, but it's still in a fine range of the 40 sale.

Sale #2 I agree is an outlier, but that doesn't make the 1st sale one an outlier.

Staying neutral until appointed otherwise by a mod or expierenced suggestor.

A strange Australium Sniper Rifle was 32 keys at the time of this sale, not 33. 32 x .95 = 30.4, rounding to 30 keys.

Sale #1 was for less than the quicksell price in Sale #2.

Oh I didn't know that you used the Aussie Sniper's price at the time of the sale, my bad. (Plus he didn't provide the *.95 overpay to the aussie so that confused me too).

Ok that explains it, proof is sufficient, upvote.

thank you for this info, it makes this be outlier aswell. so this post is fine for now. ^^

I don't mean to rain on your parade by bringing this up, but there is also an argument for not applying overpay in this sale, which is what King of All Kats did in their suggestion.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27196826

^This is the advertisement for the Blizzardy Veil in Sale #3. There was no advertisement for the Hearts Milkman, so even though there is no clear indication on the Veil's ad of the Milkman being offered, a lot of experienced suggesters will infer that the Milkman was offered because it had no advertisement, or even just because there were other items added on its side (suggesting that the Milkman seller was trying to meet the Veil seller's overpay demands). As such, they will not apply overpay.

This is not a black and white concept, so I don't mean to suggest that what you've done here is wrong. It's a judgment call that some suggesters make, and it is acceptable to do if properly justified. Technically, you followed the rules more closely, because we are asked to apply overpay if we don't know who offered. However, either his or your suggestion might pass depending on how the moderators interpret the situation.

Again, I'm not saying your suggestion is wrong, but it's just something to keep in mind.

well, now we can only wait mods.

i dont wanna make again 3 different suggest, heh. i think this is fine tho

thanks for that kinda of words, appreciate it <3

Yeah I gave him the sale because the two he had were quicksales/low, and due to it being 2:1, with the milkman not advertised, it was likely being offered on the veil imo, which is why he did it the way he did. I think his suggestion is fine personally, and even if not it would have been nice of you to let him fix/change it himself rather than taking all 3 of the suggestions that he put work into researching. :P

well seeing for now, he wouldnt change his ranges.

he wanna see what mods decide. so like mega genta say ~ Let it ride

That may be true now, but it wasn't when you posted these. He was offline. :P

well i need say apologies to him/her. but he wont change his ranges so we need just let mods decide

Indeed.

No need to calculate overpay on 3rd sale

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5621002bba8d886552a41c56

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/561deedadea9e90f184ac07b

I can do many more examples, by the way I like the fact your trying to steal my suggestions without getting your own sales lmao.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26478535 (Duped)

Was offered Ghastly Ghosts Jr Defiant Spartan + set ~ 1 key ish

41.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26750888 (Duped)

Sold for Duped Circling Heart Berliner's Bucket Helm + Duped Blizzardy Storm Cyborg Stunt Helmet + 5 keys

5 + 40 (outdated no recent sales other than this one) + 15 (cant track down any sale)

45 + 15 = 60 capped at 45

a duped got offered at 41.5 and one duped sold for 60 even if we did minis that would still be capped at 45

If overpay is calculated that would be 60 * 0.9 = 54 capped at 45 regardless

Offers dosen't need to be calculated cause it was offered not sold for it.

dupes can get sold more, but not usually. ive sold duped noh emrcy for 700 ? even price was 625 or something. sometimes ppl get lucky

as you sai lets mod decide

Using something much rarer to do a example is a bad example, however I'll agree with ya we shall let the mods to decide this.

ill add you to clear out things, i dont wanna be dick at all.