Suggestion: Cloud 9 Boxcar Bomber at 62 keys

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~35 keys

cloud 9

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This suggestion was closed Fri, 20 Nov 15 11:08:01 +0000 by the submitter.

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"Box"

Needs an update for a potential resuggestion

The sales

Sale 1:

Sold for S.voodoo juju (~62)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27302573 offered here

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198047461167?time=1447142400 before

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198047461167?time=1447228800 after

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198047461167?time=1447142400&compare=1447228800

-> 62 keys

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Sale 2:

Slightly old and probably too high:

Sold for KaW cone (92) + black max (~28) + 15 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26725359 3 months ago today

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198000401769?time=1439362800&compare=1439449200

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Sale 2 would be ~120 but:

even that pro ks one is being resold for 100

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27408683 (hints that his buyouts are negotiable in pure anyway)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27281725 up for 3 weeks at a BO of 93

and in sale 1 it was offered on an item with a buyout of 80. Both of those make 120 look like a very likely outlier.

As for the value drop: its hard to make tier comparisons here, since most boxcars are outdated.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55b9e291dea9e903508b4571 other sale on this suggestion indicates it being priced at 90 was slightly high already

All other sales on this are bulk deals which Ill try to use to update the hats for which it was used:

Bulk ooze pullover

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198038485845?time=1444460400&compare=1444633200

Bulk S13h antlers

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198049008768?time=1444892400&compare=1444978800

Bulk ooze mohawk

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198093889730?time=1446796800&compare=1446883200

Going 62 flat here

Constructive criticism welcome!

~Foam y:3

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/562aed26ba8d88f736a94a79 - mini on kaw cone hmm

I saw that, but when the sale happened, the previous accepted cone suggestion was only a month old

True. Problem is that the strange voodoo has no solid price either, last price raise was only made with a buy order. But I guess better than nothing.

Ill quickly run a check on the juju with the history I have

[Edit]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27169720

Sold for 50 + MW strange liq. asset

Scm sales on that asset around the time of the sale uptil now are ~30-40€ => ~16 keys

Would it be worth suggesting for that juju with that, and then use that to fix this? its a 3 key difference since he had a BO of 65 (or 4 actually, just saw I counted the paint on the juju)

As the guy who did the Juju <---> Boxcar trade, i find that Boxcar was a quicksale or at least it would be considered as that if the trade was another way around.

and as woifi said, u are basically dropping this hat by 30 keys bcoz one juju buy order

"Ill quickly run a check on the juju with the history I have

[Edit]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27169720

Sold for 50 + MW strange liq. asset

Scm sales on that asset around the time of the sale uptil now are ~30-40€ => ~16 keys

Would it be worth suggesting for that juju with that, and then use that to fix this? its a 3 key difference since he had a BO of 65 (or 4 actually, just saw I counted the paint on the juju)"

Quicksale? He owned the hat for 3 months.

What would matter is the fact that how long he tried to sell it, not how long he owned it (common sense). He/She never tried to sell it (if tracking his/hers outpost sales)

he offered it. He may have been selling it on trading servers, or offering it around on other hats for all we know. Offering a hat on non-pure does not mean its a quicksale by default

Every other trade ever made strongly disagree that it would be worth 62 keys, quite opposite in fact. You are dropping this by 30 keys bcoz somebody did an insanely bad deal (or at least depending on which side u look) by reason unknown. The fact that there even were sales after the 4 month old price update indicates that the price was "working". One bad deal against every other trade made isnt enough to cut the hats price by 50% compared to the other last sales even thou werent as fresh (they arent horribly old)

Did you even look at the last suggestion?

"Sale # 2

http://i.imgur.com/7V1rVxm.jpg

sold for 128 on scm

not reselling

outlier"

"Every other sale" does not work here. The last suggestion was based on 1 sale. the other sale on the suggestion was 128 dollar, which is ~50 keys

Ye but it wasnt considered as a valid sale so why should it be relevant now. Anyway, thx for the quick answers, i think this is still gettin trough even thou im not convinced considering how big the drop is and the "quality and the ammount" of proof but hey, no one cares what "i think" so ye :P

The only thing that would counter it is a higher sale (or a lower one, but Im not expecting the next sale to be lower than this). Should you sell it for more than this, you can inform me by either adding me, commenting on my profile or commenting here. In such situation I can include that sale in the suggestion and make a range.

maybe close this trade. i sold it already

BEFORE : http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198093889730?time=1447833600

AFTER : http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198093889730

sold the box car for an Amaranthine Rebel Rouser + It's a puzzle to me Smokey Sombrero.

+ a few sweets

.foam just end it here

rebel sold for 185 scm

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25440188

Constructive criticism welcome! :>

okay so a few things:

1: this is NOT a trade, its a suggestion. you selling the hat does not "end" anything.

2: the sale consists of almost unappraisable items. The rebel took 8 months to sell for that much (or 6 actually, but the trade has been open for 8 months). In the comments, the seller has revealed 50 is close to what he was looking for. If you cant get a proper offer for 6 months while youre looking for that much, I dont see why I would value it at ~75 here, because of one scm sale. There's no other usable sales other than this one, which in my eyes only strengthens that valuing the rebel at 75 is too high. I could look into the sombreros.

I guess if you really care that much I can price that rebel with the scm sale and find something on that sombrero. it will overvalue this hat and the rouser, but whatever

It also sold here + 5 keys in sweets for hellfire slick +5 keys in sweets. The slick is ~70 but has no usable recent sales.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198054743055?time=1447315200&compare=1447574400

With current value, it would be 0.9*70 = 63, which supports this value