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"Brb murdering my bp value"

This is actually the first time I lower my own hat; probably because this was only a minor part in a larger trade for me

I believe a few things went wrong in the open suggestion. Nothing has changed in 15 days so I guess Ill take over

The sales

Sale 1:

Probably lost on sweetstakes:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197985952097?time=1447660800&compare=1447747200

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Sale 2:

Not usable

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197985952097?time=1446796800&compare=1446883200

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198085269574?time=1446710400&compare=1446796800

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Sale 3:

2:1 with orbfire beak for that MG marauder

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198085269574?time=1445842800&compare=1445756400

Nope

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Sale 4:

Bulk steaming shaman

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073292688?time=1445670000&compare=1445410800

Nope

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Sale 5:

Sold for 25 keys

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198114039731?time=1445065200 before

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198114039731?time=1444719600 after

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198114039731?time=1445065200&compare=1444719600

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Sale 6:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198038380263?time=1448524800&compare=1448611200

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Sale 7:

bulk

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198000738184?time=1447574400&compare=1447660800

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Sale 8:

Sold for DP ushanka + pro ks black rose + 1key in sweets

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27384830 BO 33

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198032176942?time=1447142400 before

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198032176942?time=1447228800 after

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198032176942?time=1447142400&compare=1447228800

Should cap at the buyout of 33

-> 33 keys

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Sale 9:

This kinda got me to question the sale above

Sold for pro aussie blutsauger (~13) + pro v.kritz (~6)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198139410003?time=1447228800 before

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198139410003?time=1447401600 after

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198139410003?time=1447228800&compare=1447401600

13+0.9*6 = ~18

-> 18 keys

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Sale 10:

Shows up empty

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198129330269?time=1444719600&compare=1444633200

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Sale 11:

Sold + gfetti billy for lantern ti-tyro

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198113092842?time=1446537600&compare=1446796800

Only sale on the tyro (all other history changes are sweetstakes). Can be used there

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Sale 12:

idk what happened here

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198049203293?time=1444287600&compare=1444374000

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Sale 13:

Nope

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198071486687?time=1443423600&compare=1443510000

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Sale 14:

meh

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198049374459?time=1443250800&compare=1443337200

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Sale 15:

Sold for stormy trophy belt (~29)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26962251

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198049374459?time=1443250800

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198049374459?time=1443078000

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198049374459?time=1443250800&compare=1443078000

based on Rog's trading style I assume the trophy belt was offered instead of the other way round

0.9*29 = ~26

-> 26 keys

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Sales are at:

~18

~33 [capped]

I have my doubts about the legitimacy of the 18 and 33 sale since the person that paid ~40 in stuff (capped at 33) instantly resold it for 18 in stuff. 25-26 is probably the best here

Additionally, I've had no luck selling this for 30 for a few days, lowered my buyout gradually, but no biters yet

Constructive criticism welcome!

~Foamy :3

Sold mine for ~ 45 keys professional black rose is ~ 30 ushanka ~ 15.5 http://prntscr.com/92h6v7 . You need a different range. Prof black rose sold for 30 keys aswell http://prntscr.com/97wyff

BO was 33. You instantly rebought it for 18 keys in value. Both are outliers, the range is fine

So i sold mine mine for 30 keys pure + dead press ushanka + 1 key in items ~ 45 keys and is outlier ? do whatever you want man . seems you are not gonna listen to me anyway . proof given

Look, you would have taken 33 keys pure, foamy is selling this hat for 30 keys pure and no takers, the guy who bought it from ~45 in items from you resold it for 18 keys. Would you really price this at 45 keys pure? No it's way too much, double as much as other sales, if it would be really worth 45 keys foamy would have sold it instantly for 30 keys only. That's why it's save to call your sale an outlier, but congratz on it you made huge profit from that.

i am not saying to make it 45 keys , i just think that 26keys is very low . and i got offered several times ( at least 3 ) those 2 times which i have it ~ 30 in items which i declined

If you can provide proof of offers that would solidify 33 as part of the range I can resuggest, but I havent found anything that indicates it should, though. I just cant wrap my mind around how someone would buy this hat from you for 45 to then resell it to you for 18 in stuff, especially not seeing how cheaper ones are available.

Given current sellers (theres another one at 26 on classifieds), Id need pure offers above 30 to consider doing so.

"do whatever you want man . seems you are not gonna listen to me anyway . proof given"

Its not me thats not listening to you. I know your sale and I listed your sale. I've provided the sketchy nature of both that sale and your re-purchase and have therefore called both outliers. Generally, someone paying 15 keys over a buyout on a 30 key hat is an indication the buyer is valuing whatever he's buying as higher than anyone else. Theyre typical high outliers. For rare 1/1 hats, the "collectors" value may be the only value, but for a hat as common as this, it is better to go with the other sales. Same as with quicksales, except at the other end of the range.

people adding me to offer you know and as you can see i dont note current offers on any of my posts since i have ~ 120 unusuals that would be pain and waste of my time , i had proof of the sale which i made before 2 weeks at ~ 45 keys and i send it you . well ty for our conversation . good luck

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26962251 - 23 key B/O on sale #15

Sorry, I didnt notice this comment earlier for some reason. Thanks, fixing!