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"Purple Enohrgy"
I believe I was asked to do this a while back. Now that I run into it again I may as well do it
The sales
Sale 1:
Sold for duped PE crones (~560)
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197991864288?time=1444892400 before
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197991864288?time=1445065200 after
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197991864288?time=1445065200&compare=1444892400
Mini crones:
Copying from my other suggestion where I used this exact same mini:
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/566c4fd1b98d887c5ee94db5
Mini crones:
Sold for Pro ks aussie rocket (~70) + Duped burning honchos (~130) + Duped burning tossle (~140) + Duped burning merry (~115) + burning cowl (~105*)
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198048792033?time=1448006400 before
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198048792033?time=1447920000 after
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198048792033?time=1448006400&compare=1447920000
Minis for the crones:
Mini duped honcho:
Sold for ~140 in hats and some keys here:
Stormy 13th tavish (~75) + Stormy bonk (~37) + TaW firewall (~20) + 7 keys
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198064003417?time=1446624000&compare=1446883200
0.9*(75+37+20) +7 = ~130 ish.
Also sold for burning baker (~110) + 31 keys:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198094923192?time=1448956800&compare=1449561600
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27526228 I only find the baker but he shows here he paid baker +keys
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/56597608dea9e9b8617f7be3 baker
0.9*110 +31 = ~130
Taking 130 after overpay
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Burning tossle:
Sold for beams tossle (~125) + 31 keys
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198145518028?time=1444287600&compare=1444633200
0.9*125 +31 = ~145
Sold + ~15 in sweets for duped burning FR (~150)
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197995915986?time=1444978800&compare=1445065200
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198079098551?time=1444978800&compare=1445065200
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27228003 offered here.
FR has a seller at ~149
http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/258770853
150-15 = ~135
Sold in a combideal for a GE cone
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197995915986?time=1445151600&compare=1445065200
not using
avg 135-145 => 145. overpay done
Taking 145 after overpay
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Mini merry:
Sold for duped burning medshanka
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198021272428?time=1446274800&compare=1446188400
The shanka sold here for RA medshanka (?) + ~50 in pro ks/aussie sweets
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198031569942?time=1443337200&compare=1443423600
Nothing on the shanka and its very far outdated
Other sales on the shanka:
Sold + stuff including unu wep for duped scorching grimm
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198183073666?time=1444201200&compare=1444287600
Not gonna help => dupetrain and the grimms price is ancient
Bulk PShadows bomber
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198095224549?time=1445583600&compare=1446361200
meh
Cant really find other sales on the merry. Taking the RA medshanka value as not outdated, that sale would bring the duped burning shanka to ~115 after overpay. Thats not that bad of a value for the merry here
Taking 115 after overpay.
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Cowl:
Its clean and in-date. Since I've applied overpay everywhere else in my minis, Ill apply it here already as well
105 after overpay
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105+115+140+130+70
Total for crones: 560
-> 560 keys
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Noh other sales that I am aware of. Seller at 600 supports the drop
Constructive criticism welcome!
~Foamy :3
*ge crones, not pe ;)
Woops. thanks :p
I ran into this a while back too - ended up halfway through the minis then gave it up, felt like it'd end up being low.
Anyway, there's a seller at 600 to keep an eye on: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27568717
Yeah, I encountered it a while back and couldnt be bothered doing the crones for it back then. Since he still hasnt sold by now I figured it was okay now :P. He's only been selling for 600 for a short time afaik; his buyout was higher in earlier stages. Over that time I havent found anything to disprove of this value, though; highest offer Ive found was ~500 a.o
I dont think he's selling for 600. he is my friend and got offere way more.
*just saying* :)
At the time he was selling for 600. Obviously he's made a new trade with a B/O of 700, since :P
ah well, he were Qselling i see.
but he got offere more then 600 in unus
Doesn't really matter what my price on Pe Noh Mercy is. Or whether I'm advertising it as a quicksell or not. This suggestion is making it impossible to sell. The most any quickbuyer will offer is based off this suggestion and nobody is offering hats over 500 ANYMORE.
IMO a single GE Crone sale is not enough to change the value of the Noh. The seller of it took a few burning hats. It screams downgrading and he likely took a hit on it. I was offered 700 in hats on my DUPED GE Crone- I'm pretty sure it is on outpost, and the most recent half-decent offer on Noh was a Burning Pyromancer Hood that I value at 650-700.
That's just my 2 cents. I just think we need to wait for more sales of the Noh. As long as this suggestion is open, most people won't even consider making an offer over 560... which makes it even harder to argue the suggested price. I hope I've made some sense here.
Stormy Storm and Green Confetti Noh's are priced higher than 560....
Thanks!
A seller's price can be supportive for a drop, hence I mentioned it (i.e if theres a sale at ~560 and a current seller asking for 600, then 750 is likely too high). Of course, the time it has been up is determining how supportive it is. SInce the buyout has changed a few times, its supportive value has become weaker (since the main part of the support here is that people see its available at that value and arent all over it, which would be the case if 600 was "too low"). However, the fact that you've displayed 600 as selling value indirectly still supports. Im quite sure that if you'd get 600 offered now, you'd take it.
The thing is, technically, a suggestion shouldnt affect the potential a hat has to sell. I am aware that in some cases it works that way (usually with currently overpriced hats; the only thing they have going for them is their bp price that looks high), but if a hat is really worth 750, it should be able to sell for that amount regardless of its bptf value
Tier comparisons hold very little value here for a few reasons. Main one being that all nohs apart from flies are outdated, so youd be comparing values to suggested values from long ago. Other than that, main reason nohs are so expensive is because theyre rare and 'collectible'. Many 2nd gens are rare which will positively affect their value. PE Noh is among the most common nohs, which may get them to be valued lower than otherwise lower tier effects.
In general, I try not to rely on tier comparison too much, especially not in situations as described above. I mean, blizz is twice stormy and above energies, where blizz and stormy are normally comparable. fettis and energies are similar in value. Hearts is twice ghosts. And bubbling.. need I say more. Many of these should be wrong according to tier comparisons.
Should it sell for more I can always include the new sales in the suggestion, but as for now, this should be enough for an update.
Looks like it sold with an RA KE for a PE Shaman + duped Burning Whoopee? Bit unsure on the specifics as the histories haven't fully updated yet.
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197991864288?time=1450771200&compare=1450598400
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27593423
Shaman's unpriced (can't even see any history on it at the time of writing this) so this is clearly un-usable.
PURPLE ENERGY SHAMAN EXISTS WOWWWWWWOOWOWOW
OH BOY