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More sales, redoing the range also.


Sale 1: Sold for a demonflame pyromancer's - I legit cant find a recent sale, either outdated, bought from a scammer unboxed, or in a collector's backpack, thus doing double overpay. = 333*0.8 = ~266, seems like a definite outlier seeing as it doesnt have a proper mini and is a lot higher than the others

Before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198091301355?time=1449907200

After: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198091301355?time=1449993600


Sale 2: Sold for an eerie orbiting fire bomber + a blizzard hive minder = 135 + 14 = 149 (*0.9) = ~134 rounding to 135

Before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198115471878?time=1449648000

After: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198115471878?time=1449993600


Sale 3: Sold for FT Cool Brick House Minigun and FT Isotope Lightning Rod Shotgun

https://imgur.com/NRiGDVa

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198091301355?time=1449302400


65+28 = 93

93*0.9 = ~84 = rounding to 85


Shotgun mini: http://imgur.com/qC57yjr - Up for ~3 months


Minigun mini: 2 b/os at 27-28

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27529466

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27536625


Bomber mini: Sold for miami nights crown = 150

http://backpack.tf/item/1249734603

http://backpack.tf/item/3756714974


266 is waaay too high, 85 is waaay to low, thus picking the median sale at 135

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27575859 - young, currently listed @ 400 keys... i'd say that the 85 is too low. tough call with sales all over the map! Prolly staying neutral for now and gonna watch offers on that OP listing over the next while. (EDIT: Can you explain the 135 for the eerie bomber in your sale 2 calc? Crown is just out-dated at 150... maybe i'm tired but wouldn't it be 150+14=165x.9=148.5 ? )

    Post if any new info :)

    Why is 266 too high? When checking the other effects' price, that seems totally legit on the contrary.

      Because

      1. Its a really outdated price with recent sales I can find

      2. There are 2 other sales far closer to each other

      3. Orbiting fire is a low tier effect

        Cloud 9 is pretty low when going to the effect list, a bit higher than orbiting fire, but not that much, and for this hat, it ispriced 343 keys. You can't assume something is an outlier because of the effect, when the comparison to the others actually suggests it is indeed possible.


        Also, the second sale is a bit less than twice as much as the third. The first is a bit less than twice as much as the second. Basically, there's not one that is closer to another. I might be wrong on that one but I guess it's more relevant to go by percentage rather than just the gap amount.


        As for sales, there is an ultra recent one: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198141057220?time=1449734400&compare=1449993600 You might want to look into that further by adding one of the guys, since histories don't match. Or maybe that's the one you mentionned with "scammer", but I don't see a scammer anywhere. :P


      It's really weird: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27550820

      His highest offer "Skill gotten Gains Burchester+FN Cool Flash Fryer+G. Fetti Hazmat+Eerie Bomber ~370ish?" is this, then he sells it to the unexperienced guy with the mancers mask and the guy who made the quoted offer above just pays the bomber + hive instead of all the other stuff?

      No matter what exactly happened here, this seems super low, he would have been willing to pay way more as the offer shows, so this is most likely an outlier.