Suggestion: Mann Co. Supply Crate Key at 17.44–17.66 ref

Good Job. Upvote. Range could be 17.55 to 17.66 tho. there are more people in that range than in 17.44. I will consider 17.66 flat as the best option. There are enough buyers at that price.

Also http://imgur.com/XP9cILc

This counts as a buyer too , right?

Look at the sales of 75 keys on 17.44 refs

Yes, it can support your suggestion in this case but can not be used as main proof only. Scrap.tf can get keys for many trades not only people selling them directly for refined only. Since there are many sellers and buyers at 17.66 resuggesting at 17.66 is fine. You could do 17.44 to 17.66 if you want to, but I like flat prices for keys more.

Agreed, I think 17.66 flat is great.

but this isn't a suggestion for 17.66 flat...

35 ref for 2 keys - he doesn't have 35 ref in his bp - invalid

18 ref - never bumped - invalid

17.66 L1 is 17.44 not 17.66

17.44 :

L3 and L5 never bumped

L4 is listed @17.66 too

need more(better) proof

also, if you're going with bots http://imgur.com/ehQESrn - 17.66 doesn't seem to sell that well

thanks for the feedback

no problem

http://m.imgur.com/23U8mxv,o67fcgE,lYnSmKr

To support 17.44

Based on your proof.

Sales/Buyers At 17.66 Ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27631020 Changed from 17.66 to 17.55

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27273707 Buying for 17.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27247333 Changed from 17.66 to 17.55

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27348151 Changed from 17.66 to 17.55

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27652753 Unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26934022 Looks terribly bumped, really 77 views in 4 months ?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27623733 Semms okay

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27638178 Seems to have bought it for 17.66

Two trades aren't enough to justified the high-end.

I personally have trouble selling keys for 17.66 Ref, I barely sold one.

Welp I can't predict the changes of their trades so yea. Thanks for the feedback tho , I will gather more proof when I have the time

Going with keys as your first suggestion? I like you already.

At least you know what you're doing, seems fine but that 18.88 ref buyer is 8 months old and hasn't restocked their backpack with metal.

*UPDATE

At 17.44-

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25155171

At 17.66-

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27247333

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27623733

At 17.77-

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27642938

White star and Good Key suggestion

You are Hardcore Homeboi ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)>⌐■-■

UPDATE#2

At 17.44-

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27623733

35 refs for 2 keys-

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27643890 (~17.55 per key)

At 17.55-

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27493749

At 17.66-

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27348151

http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - 26 being bought at 17.66; this is low.

i bought a few today @17 and even 16.66. scrap.tf has 122 to sell @ 17.66. had 90 a few hours ago. do the math http://imgur.com/lCcAsY1

I'm shit at suggestions like this, I just thought it would help ;p.

UPDATE#3

At 17.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27646860

35 for 2-

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27646079

At 17.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27638178

UPDATE#4

At 17.44-

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27636184

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27648987

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27199604

At 17.66-

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27652753

The range is kinda ugly. I would like 17.33-17.66 more.

Proof of people selling 17-17.33

http://prntscr.com/9lmsrz

The thing is , 17 -17.33 sells with ease. All of the sellers you provided in the screenshot is at least a day old. There are tons of buyers for 17.33 too.

I have been trying to buy for 17.33 for a week without success. The only thing I was able to do was to swoop in on Scrap.tf while their prices were still below market on Jan 2nd.

So the range should change.

Hmm idk key suggestions usually have way more proof than this

for a slight adjustment like this, and the previous suggestion not too long ago, you don't need a truckload of proof like you would normally do

Did you look into my updates lol

http://prntscr.com/9m8ouy bought for 17 ref.

honestly, what is the point of raising it by 1 scrap....

Even though he's not putting many prooves, as far as I've seen i traded tons of keys at 17.44-17.66 rafs myself (even scrap.tf is on .44-.55 range). I would upvote, it's a quite conservative range and pretty fair.

scrap.tf has 130 keys unsold @.55 http://i.imgur.com/zY2XUHX.png

i totally agree, but when they put .33-.44 last day they sold all, and they had 260 (i checked, all gone in 6-7 hours)

that's why, again, i say that .44-.66 might be a good, conservative range since .33 is too low. i hope you agree with me :)

do you have proof for 18?

I'm don't have time to update due to the reopening of my school , oh well.

ClayRabbit is currently selling for 17.33. If enough get sold, they'd bump it to 17.44. The high end is probably high here.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23798941

Almost scared to say it, Upvote, there honestly isn't much reason to consider downvoting any non-troll key suggestions at this point. While the situation is not like, "might as well raise the price all at once to 30 ref" There is no 'end condition' or even point of stabilization even remotely conceivable. there will be the periods of falling with sales and seasons and other trends, and the prices accordingly, but there is no stop point for those who once the price updates, sell for .11 above the updated price, and in the end, those who buy, until there is enough sales to 'officially raise it' just to repeat. Free-to-play-to-newly-premium users bringing more ref into the economy is hardly proportionate to the raise, unless factoring idling, but even then, there's no end condition to the near-science of predicting rising, might as well upvote as stated. To the suggestor, props for the good first suggestion, including the added proof, on a more uplifting note. If there are any non-"face it this is the reality we're royally screwed" who have a serious point to make, by all means do so, observations aren't fixed by any means, better to have more information than less before a decision is made

Not so sure if keys deserve a rise yet - I bought 6 keys at 17 ref each. http://prntscr.com/9o8hsl

This is too old, the prices are lower now

Scrap TF has gone down all the way to 17.22 and 17.44 with all this talk of it going up and up don't you think we should check everywhere before further inflating the price of keys?

(I know my post does not contain all information I am just regarding to future posts made about keys if any)

Proof: https://gyazo.com/ca3dcfb43f48dd27963615f504e1d2e5

Ehh it is quite rare that they do have keys though

there is also no point to posting your opinion twice

Well technically they are sellers and they are offering a service, just because they are known by many people and their "system" is big it doesn't mean we need to leave them out, since they are one of the biggest people selling keys they should be taken in consideration even more since they offer a service which is always available, then if they can't restock because prices are changing is not their fault but before this suggestion the key bot had always something in it, is obvious that people buy them since prices are changing and Geel or whoever changes them takes a few days to change them.

But still upvote, good proof, good consistence in updating, if backpack.tf takes time do do things is not this guy's fault is it?

There are tons of buyers at 17.44+ in the classies and very few sellers at that. Perhaps 17.44 may be low by this point

sold one for 17.33

received another offer for 17.33

link| http://imgur.com/a/I9iwc

You forget the fact that people also sell and buy keys for 17.33

http://i.imgur.com/ENOw5Y0.png

There are already multiple buyers for 17.55-17.66, sellers below that are offline, poorly bumped or escrowed.

Seems like 17.44 is a quicksell already, staying neutral on this.

Sale 17.66

http://prntscr.com/9t0hsg

Looks like market is now at 18 ref. You should close and update this key suggestion.

How did that happen lol, I don't even know how high key prices will be after my one year break lol