Suggestion: Massed Flies Law at 85–124 keys

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~21 keys

flies

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Sale 1:

Massed Flies Law + Orbiting Planets Pampered Pyro for Death at Dusk Minnesota Slick

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198000174125?time=1446883200

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198000174125?time=1446796800

Death at Dusk Minnesota Slick Mini:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27620806 b/o of 110 keys.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198154572004?time=1447747200 --- http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198154572004?time=1448092800 Sold for Haunted Ghosts Modest Pile of Hat + Bubbling Soldier's Slope Scopers + Strange Steaming Private Eye ~ 116.24 keys.

Orbiting Planets Pampered Pyro Mini:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27655165 b/o of 18 keys

No recent valid trades, best estimate it's around 16 keys.

X + 16 = 0.9(116.24)

X = 88 keys

Sale 2:

Massed Flies Law sold for Knifestorm Well-Rounded Rifleman

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198000174125?time=1448179200

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198000174125?time=1448352000

0.9(137.5) = 123.8 keys

Sale 3:

Massed Flies Law + Cloud 9 Soldered Sensei + Strange Specialized Killstreak Australium Force-A-Nature for Purple Confetti Law

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198057773241?time=1448438400

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198057773241?time=1448352000

Purple Confetti Law Mini:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/542526 Sold for Flaming Lantern Team captain ~ 145 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/891773 Sold with a Morning Glory Buccaneer's Bicorne for a Morning Glory Kiss King ~ 158 keys

Average ~ 151.5

X + 34.2 +16.9 = 0.9(151.5)

X = 85.3

Recent trade with marked scammer:

Not being used as proof but thought I should mention, sold for Bubbling Aviator Assassin + Miami Nights Lord Cockswain's Pith Helmet + Orbiting Planets Bonk Leadwear + Cauldron Bubbles Specialized Killstreak Tippler's Tricorne + Circling Peace Sign Thirst Blood + Massed Flies Defiant Spartan + 5 keys ~ 118.6 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,4435473769,30362,5 (Might want to ban Henninsson too)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073863984?time=1451894400

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073863984?time=1451980800

Outlier:

Also not being used a proof, sold with a duped Circling Peace Sign Skullcap for a Searing Plasma Crone's Dome ~ 245 keys

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/567fd16bdea9e94e257f7685 this price suggestion was used for the duped Skullcap which puts it at around 100 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/714406

Obvious outlier considering the current price range so should be disregarded.

sale 2&3 unusable's

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/565f22f7dea9e91e307f77b6

Used sale 3 to Mini the flies law on suggestion

used sale 2 to price knifestorm rifleman.

"unusable's"? I wouldn't say they're unusable since you when you mini'd the flies law you found it to be 120 keys which fits into the range, doesn't make much of a difference. I don't think there's any specific rule saying you can't use them.

There is actively a specific rule that says you can't use them. Its circular logic.

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-guide-for-unusual-price-suggestions/ Not seeing this rule. Like I said it's not like it's not like it makes much of a difference, if I used his mini for the law saying it's 120 keys and disregarded sale 3 the range would be 88 - 120 which has the same average as mine. I mean, it's better than using just 1 sale then making the price 88 keys, that's just low.

It's rule zero: common sense. Circular logic is bad and shouldn't be used.

If there was a sale in the mini making the law 120, use that sale.

Also since you've clearly read the rules and love them so dearly, why are you applying overpay?

Sure it's circular logic to use the price of the rifleman but I clearly didn't realise that said sale was used to suggest that price. That doesn't mean you should just ignore the sale completely considering there aren't any other sales to base the price off.

The sale in the mini was my sale 3.

You apply overpay unless you have proof that the hat was offered.

You didn't realise. You have now. So you can't use it.

No, you don't. Refer to the rules update.

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/47182-major-changes-to-the-unusual-suggestion-rules/

So since you have to resuggest anyway, you can not use that -UNUSABLE- sale.

Or I can just counter.