Suggestion: Non-Craftable A Distinctive Lack of Hue at 1 key

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~1.25 keys

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1 key:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27652415

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27667048

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27651537

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27659687

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27666870

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27634618

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27667256

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27650313

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27667048

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27643032

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27666949

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27660623

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27665421

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27631131

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27658291

https://imgur.com/J0NFrdT

5 pages on classifieds for 1 key on the 7/01/2015 7.30pm

Solds

credits http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5684b571b98d888653e94b38

1 key

http://prntscr.com/9kbgnr

http://prntscr.com/9kbgsx

http://prntscr.com/9kbgxl

http://prntscr.com/9kbhf7

Outliners sorta

9 ref http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27669337

14 ref http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27667494

16 ref http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27668396 1.66 ref off the range

http://imgur.com/SwUQz0t front page off classifieds

i hope its enough C:

if you have more proof feel free to leave it below

Not been much time since sale got over, let market cooldown and get to a stable price

Eh, the 1 Key sales are kind of old. There's a whole page of classifieds sellers at less than a key.

Staying neutral until more recent sales are shown.

some of those are poorly bumped and most the people are offline so unable to trade

4 Days later and there's still heaps of sellers below a key. I would just wait until these stabilize, give them two or three weeks.

well non craftable and craftable paints bot are same

Nope it is a huge difference, even some item's non craft version are super expensive which can be found on bp.tf

only some rare items :P

That does not mean you can say same price for both.

well both kind of paint is just used to paint not of rareity

The suggestion is of paint bought from mann co. (Non craftable) the price of it is not 2 keys, if you currently check the page of the non craftable paint it says " not priced". So if the market is on 1 key for non craftable and 2 keys for other it is two different things. You just cant say both are same priced

Hey, fyi... Generally non craftable and craftable tools are priced exactly the same.

This mann co store screwed up a few items, so we'll see if it matters.

It does matter as users are paying more for CRAFTABLE ONLY and not uncraftable. They are generally valued the same because quickbuyers don't usually care if your name tag is craftable or not.

You do realized you're being denial here, right? Craftable or non-craftable, they still share the same purpose of the tool. Here's a legit question. Who the hell crafts a 'craftable' paint here?

It is not craftted, it is found as a timed drop. Feel free to check the classifieds, there are a number of users who will pay 1 key for craftable only. It isn't general, but it is a fact here. Throughout the last week, I have only bought 5 craftable paints total, yet have recieved 40+ uncraftable offers. Thats just how paints currently are. I love how everyone is disliking it when its the current reality

I did not mention about paints being 'crafted'. You're referring to quickbuyers, not sellers. And I like the fact how you people are trying to avoid the fact that both tools share the same function & purpose, yet being picky over it just because its non-craftable or not. My point here is, both items has the same identical purposes but again, you're being denial over its value & price.

Backpack.tf does not price items based on "how much it should be worth" because of its purpose, but because of demand. That's like saying the Genuine Nabler should be equivalent to the unique one, because they serve the same purpose.

This suggestion is invalid either way, given the current sellers even on the classifieds.

From your last comment:

Who the hell crafts a 'craftable' paint here?

From your comment here:

I did not mention about paints being 'crafted'.

You forget even about what you previously stated.

And all of this is coming from someone with 199 more accepted suggestions than you. I have a somewhat decent idea of what I'm talking about.

You're comparing a Genuine cosmetic to a Unique cosmetic? We're talking Unique non-craftable/craftable tool here.

Also, I was referring to this from my last comment:

It is not "craftted", it is found as a timed drop.

And I couldn't be bothered from someone who compared himself to me just because he has "more suggestions" than me. I'm just voicing my thoughts here, nuff said.

Will wait for a mod to explain this to you users with zero common sense.

If I'm lacking of common sense, then you're in denial. You're still trying to avoid the facts what I've just said from my previous comments.

How am I in denial?

There is no place in the rules where it is stated that craftable tools = uncraftable tools. That is just what generally happens. Clearly, not here, seeing as multiple users will buy craftable only and not uncraftable tools.

So you just blindly follow the rules without realising both tools are the same? So much for your common sense.

backpack.tf goes by rules. Not by opinions. Common sense possibly, but not in that sense.

If your generalization is correct, explain to me why the Uncraftable End of the Line Key does not have the exact same price as the Craftable one

I couldn't be bothered to answer your meaningless question when you can't even answer the questions given to you below.

Below? The user below was talking to OP, as he stated before he deleted his reply

You are mistaken, hue and tinge paints are not among the items in the timed drop table.

Funny enough, you're right, Uncrated from the older crates, I mean

No it isnt. Tools are the only one that exactly DOESNT matter if they are craft-able or uncraft-able

Wait, why?

Because you consume the item! And you get anyway a "craft-able" version.

It does matter as users are paying more for CRAFTABLE ONLY and not uncraftable. They are generally valued the same because quickbuyers don't usually care if your name tag is craftable or not.

Look at outpost and the classifieds

Not sure why people are disliking your comment. It is a huge difference for this scenario, as it is different from previous scenarios

Nope. See the closed White Paint suggestion

Market is too unstable right now as SCM prices break $2 and people are increasing prices.

wait for a stabile price mehn,sale is just over 1 day ..

They share the same value.

They share the same purpose.

It's the same tool.

Therefore, no. I'd rather wait till they sort the price out after a few days.

This is not a click and scroll website dude, and here lemme ask you something:

1) No matter craftable or non craftable, do they hold the same purpose?

2)You said that craftable paints can be obtained through a timed drop, and? what does it use for?

3)You suggested that non craftable should be 1 key, which is 1 key more cheaper than the non craftable one, whats the point here?

4)You suggested the non craftable should be 1 key and which is cheaper, SO D YOU EVER USED A PAINT FOR CRAFTING PURPOSES?

5)From the seller you listed there:-

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27652415-15 ref= 1key? are you kidding me?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27667048- offer canceled

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27651537 -okay this one no problem 17 ref= 1key looks normal or a little bit lower

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27659687- trade canceled

6)Is there any difference from a craftable and a non craftable paint? *Don't tell me they are one craftable and the other are non craftable,that just dont work on me and others*

7)If you say people are using paints in crafting,proof please

8)If you insist on craftable and a non craftable should be different price, give me a reason why, timed dropped doesn't counted for the reason, srsly both holding the same purpose, whats the point being different price for both craftable and a non craftable paints?

Don't even try to hide from my question answer them, Be a man btw

Click the reply button, it helps

At the time of me posting those all where at 1 key

Hue and tinge paints are not included in the timed drop table.

If they are not included then they should be the same price as 2key for both version

1 key is the right price..... Don't see the difference between uncraftable and craftable.

2 key is the right price,read my post and you'll know why

Well of course, if it'd be great if people would buy for 2 keys..... Idk but I think I just got 'scammed' because someone gave me 3 uncrafts hues for my spec. Ks. Original worth 6 keys. If I can sell the paints at 1 key 15 ref or even 2 keys, I'd be very happy :D

For those people complaining about how there is no difference between craftable and non-craftable paints, you are correct.

However, the price for most sellers of the non-craftable Black & White paint, at least for now, is much lower than that of sellers of the craftable version of the paint. There are even buyers specifically wanting to buy craftable paint in the classifieds.

For reference, refer to Jacobmeister's comment on why he closed the 2 keys white paint suggestion:

(For those who don't know, he's part of the moderation team for backpack.tf, so his words should have some credibility)

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5691b792ba8d88cc50a94a52

That being said, it will probably not hold forever though, as eventually more people would wise up and buy uncraftable black paints instead, which will eventually drop the price of the craftable paint sellers, to a more equal level.

Out of 6,437,361 inventories, there are 14,048 known instances of this item.

Welp .... this thing will stay under a key for at least 3 months

This is now the normal paint!, we do not gonna have a craft paint again... soo i think we need some time for the paint's fix your normal prices.