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"My UGC badges give me false confidence."

Now with the obligatory quote out of the way I can get started.


So for starters I'm using the normal price since all of the Vivid variants of this hat that exist are Strange. I saw this earlier with a Searing Fortunate Son so I'm rolling with it.


Please realize that I've done minimal research on suggesting and I'm bound to have messed something up.


I did a 1:1 trade with a Secret Executioner(440) keys

http://imgur.com/7TTweBS (sorry for quality)


I offered if it matters, but I think the new rule nullifies that completely.


Enjoy poking holes in my logic

    Was it a clean exec?


    Also fairly sure you need to wait for 2 sales or a month to pass.

      I should have checked earlier, it's unfortunately duped. Plus I figured if I waited 2 months the exe price wouldn't be valid and I don't want to go hunting for minis

        You need a Mini for the Executioner if it's Duped.

        As for Temmie's comment, 1 Sale is fine if the sale is greater than 200 Keys in value.

          I have absolutely no idea how to find minis without wasting half my day asking past owners.

            Check the history of the Duped Exe and look for sales.

            I can look for one, if you'd like me to.

              I would love you forever if you did <3

                There is not one.

                  Then idk what to do here. Thanks for taking a look though

            But there's 2 currently on the market. Surely it makes no sense to price off 1 sale?

              If the other ones sell, then a range can be made. Until then, 1 Sale is fine.

                I have a hunch the other one isn't gonna sell at all. He's been offered 550+ and still declined.

                  If he's been offered 550, then it makes sense that this should really wait for a 2nd sale...

                    The other seller says they have been offered a 550 key unusual but I dont see proof in the comments of the post. He has not declined, only stated that there was an offer of that value.

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27613198

                      I added him in private, and he said it wasn't enough to take.

                        Did he have proof of this 550 offer? Or is there proof that im missing? Because if it is proven of a 550 offer then yes its best to wait for another sale to confirm (as prettyprincess mentioned). If the 550 offer cannot be confirmed then a basis from 1 sale would be sufficient. Isnt that how it would work?

                          He just told me what the offer was. I don't remember exactly what it was, but I can ask if necessary

                            Not sure if I am getting my facts mixed up, but if somebody on outpost asked for proof of this offer, they would need to provide it or remove the offer from their notes completely otherwise risk a ban since they would only be able to assume a false offer to try and get more from potential buyers

                              I think that's how if works, but the fake offer system is completely broken, as I've gotten banned for having "1 million keys" listed. Plus, I haven't seen anybody ask for proof on anything for a very long time. I could ask for proof to find out

                                Well if proof is provided as pretty princess has stated it might be worth closing this and waiting for the other to sell as well. Its more for the suggestion than the proof of 550 here

                                  So I actually went and asked about the offer. I was given proof. Supposedly the offer was Burning Rotation+Energy Orb flash fryer+Hot Night Owl. http://imgur.com/066srFB

          One hole in your logic.

          UGC badges shouldn't give anyone any kind of confidence xD

            They make me feel good that I'm one of the few high tier traders who plays comp at an actual level

              Does competitive make you the saltiest ass to be around or are you one of the few who doesn't bitch about every weapon that isn't meta

                The only thing I find genuinely stupid is the lack of skill it takes to play soldier. Otherwise I don't complain much.

                  I.......

                  Love you for saying that Soldier = no skill at all

                  Seriously

                  you have my commendations

                    The part I find funniest is that some iron roamer probably saw this and disliked my post.

                      You get those people

                      They tend to complain when someone uses a weapon that isn't meta, or uses it in a way that isn't meta


                      the amount of times someone has bitched at me for actually using the Gloves of Running to kill or even using the Sniper Rifle as a killing device, not a headshot machine, is insane

            The other guy has gotten offers of 550, no? Perhaps make a range/ wait for him to sell

              It's an idea, but I have a hunch the other owner isn't going to sell at all.

              Fair enough, ill upvote for now

                Unfortunately, as indicated above, you'll need to determine the value on the duped secret ex first before using it as proof here