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    so there is 1 sale that occurred that had a b/o of 110. (sold for a 150key hat in overpay)


    I see no reason to believe the 119 offer is only for the buto and not just a super lowball on the buto+stash


    Not understanding why its being priced over the b/o on the only sale.

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27569229 its also offered here


      There is no range.


      I see the b/o hmm

        Plus their is countless of offers for 120+ in many of the killer Kabuto's on tf2outpost. That their should be no reason why this unusual would not get bumped to 120.

          except like... a sale with a b/o of 110 that looks to have been listed for weeks

          Makes it more obvious hes after the buto, doesn't make sense why he didn't pay it?


          Looks like guy tried to accept and they didn't trade judging from the notes

            Actually the people he did offer on did accept his trade but have to wait for the keys to become trade able.

              then that cannot be considered a final sale for the purpose of the suggestion


              why?


              because he can decide to buy something else


              happens all the time, guys with untradeable keys offer to pay and then they dont

                But the guy did say its a reasonable offer and to add him for the trade? Why is that not considered a final suggestion. He accepted his offer and asked him to send a trade. Yes I understand that his keys are not tradable, But yet the guy accepted his offer and I quote " seems like a fair offer, send me a trade offer". and he said "Ok I messaged you on steam."

                  But there was proof that a killers kabuto of unusual of purple energy sold for a Scorching Nappers Respite, And as backpack.tf prices the unusual of nappers respite Scorching is priced at 160, I might be wrong or blind. Now I think backpack.tf does not reconcile that overpay does count as a actual offer but I think and believe reasonably that the Nappers was 160 pure right and a normal overpay is what 20-25% right so that makes it a offer of 128 keys at 20% off and 25% off is 120.

                    still at 120 keys plus. So why the offer, That will be accepted by the guy he offered on, and the one that sold for the nappers, Be enough and valued proof that the killer can be and should be at 120 keys.

                    With the offers from the other post, and the one that sold, and the 119 key offer pure.

            As seen here http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27720507 <--- 119 keys pure, and past offers with his picture proof here ttp://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27630818

            Why didn't they offer to me? :(

              rip .

                Because he got off at the time when your post was not up. When he posted on the others they where on the post and he was online.

                  Also I just want to make sure my statement on the overpay is correct. I believe and seen on countless of post more then fingers and toes I can count on my body. But normal when it is first generation unusual's it is normally and recommended by most that will overpay and are asking overpay In first generation unusual's that 20-25% is the price of overpay for first gens. Now when you do the math of 75 and 80 percent of 160 it come out to 120 keys at 75% and 128 keys at 80 percent. Yes he was asking 110 but he ended with a scorching nappers.

                    That's not how backpack.tf works.

                    If you were willing to take 110 keys, it should not be priced higher. Also, overpay rules are not a thing on backpack.tf anymore.

                    So yeah, B/O if 110, should be priced at 110

                      So basically what you are saying is even tho the guy got a 160 key unusual. His b/o is 110 so that's what it counts for.

                        Yes. People sell their Golden pans for 1600 in unusuals sometimes, but wanted 1100 pure, so on backpack.tf we'll take the sale as 1100, since the B/O caps the price. We can't price an item higher than what the seller would take for it.

                          Makes sense

                Well, it's plausible that the hat could've risen in value since the sale at 110. Yes, 110, not 120. It's also over two months old now, and there's a lot of kabutos on the market currently so sales over two months old really shouldn't be used.


                Anyway, this'll probably sell for 118 so 120 might end up being close enough: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27569229

                  True. Thanks for clearing it up. :)

                  http://backpack.tf/vote/id/568ed39adea9e9123059701e - nappers will be ~120, but that doesn't really matter since sale will be capped at 110.


                  The guy who is offering 118-119 pure on all the trades is getting multiple interested buyers. I wouldn't be surprised if all of them added him and he ended up selling at 110 pure, as they all end up undercutting one another. You can either wait for him to actually buy one or resuggest at 110 flat.

                    True but then again it is a guess that it will be undercut to 110 but he only offered on two and one accepted so tbh he will offer the 118 and buy it for that much

                      Polar, if he does buy, would it be 110-120 or just 120 flat?

                        As julia has added he sold it for 119 pure

                          I confirm the sale here again.

                          I had to wait indeed for the keys being tradable, and hid his comment to avoid other sellers of PE Kabuto to steal the offer, hence the confusion it made regarding the comments left on that suggestion.