Suggestion: Mann Co. Supply Crate Key at 18 ref

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~57.22 ref

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READING IS HARD FOR COMMENTERS HERE...LOOK AT THIS SCREENSHOTS THEY ARE BUYING MORE THAN A 100 KEYS FOR 18 REF EACH

If bp.tf gave me a key for every disilke my comments get...daydreaming

Bots buying for 18 ref

Page 1 of Buyers

http://i.imgur.com/0U7oIQX.jpg

Page 2 of Buyers

http://i.imgur.com/FHUki5Z.jpg

Credit to Hold my beer. Nice name :D

READING IS HARD FOR COMMENTERS HERE...LOOK AT THIS SCREENSHOTS THEY ARE BUYING MORE THAN A 100 KEYS FOR 18 REF EACH

Trade.tf buyers for 18 ref

http://puu.sh/mFIXG/298885323d.png

Trade.tf buyers for 17.88

http://puu.sh/mFJ1m/2d93000cba.png

Definitely needs a raise, but not an expert suggestor so.

You need a lot more proof for a Currency suggestion. Find sales and sellers

No, there are a lot of buyers above the current highest price. Is obvious this needs a raise. Litterally 2 pages above 17.66

you realize AG is a black belt suggester right....? you need more proof man, 6 buyers at 18 isn't enough

Just sold one in less than a minute for 18.11 so black belt argument is worthless in this case

you're gonna need more proof man.... one more sale isn't a lot more....

No I dont. Mods are the ones that say how much proof I need. People are buying more than 10 at a time for 18 ref. You dont even look at the screenshots but are swift to demand more proof.

Hi, your friendly neighbourhood moderator here. A lot of proof is generally needed for key suggestions, here's some recent examples:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/56700994ba8d881517a94af3

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5662a76ddea9e947317f7705 (this is pretty small compared to others)

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/56582095ba8d88ea6ea94bf7

I could go on. The raise is definitely needed though. Also, don't think that just because people like Vrakos or AG. aren't mods doesn't mean their opinion is totally worthless! :P

There are 2 people buying more than a 100 keys for 18 ref each.

The amount of buyers is more important - most buyers will buy as many keys as they can regardless.

In this case i most of the buyers are bots or really fast traders. They are all buying for 18. SCM is also above 2.50 I dont see the problem with this suggestion. People are indeed buying for 18 and more.

I looked at the screenshots and counted the buyers, there's 6 buyers at 18..... apparently reading is hard for you 'cause I already said there are 6 buyers at 18 (and yes, I take offense when you say we, the commenters, are not reading/checking your proof, I take pride in the quantity of books I read IRL)

@at the "there are 2 people buying more than a 100keys" bit

eh that's only 2 people though

Look at the trade.tf screenshots by Hold my beer.

yeah, I counted those, you have 4 buyers at 18 from bptf classifieds, 2 from tradetf at 18. I READ YOUR SUGGESTION, I CHECKED YOUR PROOF

You didnt check how many keys are the trade.tf buyers buying, did you?

already commented about that, go read my replies

Then i dont see how you dont get that 18 ref is the new price for keys.

jacob already stated it doesnt matter how many keys the trade.tf buyers are buying, it depends how many buyers at that price there are overall.

Trade.tf buyers for 18 ref

http://puu.sh/mFIXG/298885323d.png

Trade.tf buyers for 17.88

http://puu.sh/mFJ1m/2d93000cba.png

Definitely needs a raise, but not an expert suggestor so.

I never do key suggestions because I dont care about the key:ref ratio, but it seems to me that there are quite some classified sellers below 18. To be honest, I dont know how escrow should be taken into consideration here, since people that have trade holds will have a hard time selling their keys compared to those that dont. I assume that the gap between buyers and sellers is related to that.

Anyway, one of the buyers seems to be a bot, it may be worth checking out what his balance is. If hes out of ref, then 18 flat is definitely too high.

A bot just bought one of mine for 18.11 so i dont think 18 is high

The suggestion should cover a common trading point, though. A bot that bought 1 key is not exactly solid evidence in a market as large as this one. Thats why people are saying youll need more proof here

2 pages of people buying for more the current highest price. Just sold one in less than a minute for more than I am suggesting. Look at the screnshots people are not buying just 1. The are buying more than 10 at a time for 18

we don't disagree that this needs a raise. we just want you to have more proof of your price....

http://puu.sh/mFNiH/a02261ba36.png scrap.tf has 0 keys, they are are buying for 17.44 (not really sure if this helps)

I bought all of them :D

Thanks! By the way, only person actually helping!

Buying but from what I'm seeing are people SELLING at 17.33 - 17.66,

Just looks like an attempt at manipulation to me honestly.

I'm going off what I'm seeing and there's a lot of people selling them within the current range and slightly higher.

On the other hand loads of bots are buying at 18.00.

Something's not right there.

ppl give you advice here, and you are like : " OMG NOPE NOPE OMG BUYERS AT 18 OMG NOPE"

Behavior like this won't help you. This is trade.tf tag all over again :D!!

Also, close this before a mod does. u need WAY more proof! - what about solds?

Edit: what does the yellow post mean? warned by moderator? :o

my god. Looks like someone's mad lol.

Anyways, the key definetly does need a raise.. however, only 4 buyers on classies @ 18 ref.

The trade.tf bots definetly show that someone's willing to buy them for 18 ref, but I don't really know much about key suggestions (they're mostly spamming commenters or tryhard economics majors)

As many people have said, the key does need a raise, but this proof seems weak compared to AND HIS NAME ISSSSSS's proof.

Even then, people are still unsure. Downvote for me, thanks.

quicksold more than 20 keys for 18 and now at 18.11. upvote (check my history if you dont believe)

Sounds like you'll need more buyers or sales for this suggestion. Sorry dude. Downvote.

If you ever want to become a suggester, you have to learn to take criticism. Clearly you can't, judging from the comment section where you're continuously insulting people trying to help. Instead of typing what you've already heard, the short version is that you'll need more proof than 2 pages of classies and some trade.tf buyers. You'll need Outpost buyers/solds, and you'll need a lot for a major currency suggestion. Downvoting for now until you can counter me with more proof.

To become a suggester you just have to click one button, I think everyone here is lucky enough to be capable of that. There was literally only one person helping. I already thank him for that. The proof is enough in my opinion. Actually, Erupo said he quicksold a lot of keys for 18 ref but people buried his comment with dislikes.. I sold one for 18.33 and other for 18.11. I dont need to do anything else.

It is almost funny that you say that I am the one insulting when I am the one being insulted from the start. People have said that I am manipulating prices. That I am somewhat less than other suggesters because I have trade.tf in my name. That I am lazy cause I don't show you every bit of information and explain every bit of every trade, word by word. Hell, I have been called even scammer in my suggestions.

More than 95% of people don't put any effort into the comments. Just gibberish and complaints about how I am not using the format that almost every other suggester uses. Sorry for not using this website as copypaste.tf or facebook.tf, I guess I will have to start using blindvote.tf and edwardsnowden.tf

Backpack.tf isn't the nicest community, and you'll come to find that in your time on the forums and the main site. While it is a nice place, people aren't going to baby you or always be kind. If someone's rude to you you have to take it with a grain of salt and keep calm instead of lashing out at them. People actually do put efforts into their comments. Most of the people I've seen give you advice have many accepted suggestions-you'd be wise to calm down and learn from what they're telling you.

And, while it may be enough proof in your opinion, something that affects the economy this much needs a lot of proof-not a few links, regardless of if these are restocking trades or not.

This doesn't change the economy. The economy changed before I was doing this suggestion. The prices increased everywhere. The proof is enough because it shows the market real trading point not whether it fits the fancy standards of the people commenting about it.

a moderator already kinda pointed out you're going to need proof comparable to past accepted suggestions for this and you keep insisting that this is enough? just put some work in and stop complaining

I'm going to downvote, but for a different reason. My brother just put an outpost trade for 18 keys, insta-buy. I myself, can't find any sellers below 18 keys, but am seeing a lot of buyers for 18.11. Even in the classifieds now, there are bots buying for 18.11. I'm downvoting because I think the range should be 18-18.11, rather than 18. I'm also downvoting the other key suggestion as well. It might have been viable a week ago, but it's been up for far too long