Suggestion: Nebula A Head Full of Hot Air at 80–90 keys

Price Suggestion

~115.5 keys

nebula

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You were warned, pally.

SALES:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27919653 Sold for Scorching Trib (Outdated at 120)

= 90 (B/O)

I highly doubt the Trib has gone below 90 keys.

Histories:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198096389539/#!/compare/1457251200/1457337600

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198014404374/#!/compare/1457251200/1457337600

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27917293 Sold + DBD Tin Gallon (Outdated at 22, mini at 22) for SGG Rancho (Outdated at 100, mini at 100)

100 - 22 = 78 (rounding to 80)

Histories:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198153658869/#!/compare/1456992000/1457164800

Tin-Gallon mini:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27919653 Sold for Aussie Amby (18) + sweets (~4)

Using 22.

Rancho mini:

No recent sales on the duped one.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27910600 Clean sold for ~105-110 keys

Histories:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198032176942/#!/compare/1456992000/1457078400

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198043313248/#!/compare/1455004800/1457078400

So I'm gonna go ahead and call the duped one 100 keys flat. Seems more than fair.

Let it ride.

The guy was offering for my rancho though, with the nebula and tin gallon, so he overpaid. I don't know if you can use such purchase to price a hat. Let's say I go and overpay someone by a hell lot, wouldn't be fair to call the hat being priced much lower because of that.

The sale happened, nonetheless. Your opinion isn't valid as counter-proof, unfortunately.

If you overpaid by a hell of a lot, evidence would show it was an outlier. It doesn't here.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/56dc044bba8d889824b323a7

Check the sale with the glasgow helm and the anger. The anger is updated. Now let's say this sale is used to price the glasgow helm, because the rack, supposedly, is already updated.

That would make the glasgow helm 48 keys, following your logic. Which is ridiculous.

It's not about my opinion, it's about the fact it doesn't make sense to use a trade where one party obviously overpaid to price a hat that was part of the offer.

He didn't -obviously- overpay, that's your opinion. The evidence doesn't show that sale is an outlier.

Come back with some evidence or I'm not interested.

I'm the seller, so if I tell you he overpaid, he overpaid. Now I get the part where 48 compared to 150 would be a huge outlier, where 80 compared to 90 is not.

With 62+ in existence there should be many more sales.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27899795 Sold one for 80 pure, went in around a day

There was a recent sale on the market at $287.50 (~115 keys) as well, which I can guarantee you was Nebula.

You'd think, wouldn't you?

Market does what market wants >_<

80 pure is low-end support, ta.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27861170 Spellbound Bone Dome (3 months outdated at 90 keys) + 20 keys; 100 key B/O ;3

I personally rejected it:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27856580#p64703101

We'll mini the bone dome before we jump to conclusions, shall we? Do you REALLY think that thing is 90 keys? Because I sure don't ;3

idk seems to have sold for 90-95 keys.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198079301761/#!/compare/1456041600/1456128000

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198045312207/#!/compare/1456041600/1456128000

It sold with a Pro KS Strange Rainbow Sniper for that. That sniper is about 18 keys on SCM.

So ~70 keys for the bone dome, which then makes that sale high-end support.

Can you guys please trust my ability to make a suggestion now? You're wounding me, you really are.

I don't. The Rainbow Sniper Rifle price is for the non-killstreak one. It should be higher. :3

http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Strange%20Rainbow%20Sniper%20Rifle%20%28Field-Tested%29

Fair XD

Well, that's better, frankly, the low-end is the contested part here and that sale now swings towards supporting that further :P

Thankyou for being civil about this :3

Sold for pure in one day suggests it is a quicksell and supports the fact 80 should not be in the range. There is your evidence. Guess I was right after all.

"Suggests" isn't proof of anything. Come on, man.

Let me mini this bone dome, calm yourselves, geez.

By "suggests" I mean "proves". I mean, it's in the goddamn rules. Everyone knows that. Sold in a day for pure = quicksell, that is one thing that's not even up to debate, "geez".

"Time is only one factor used to determine a quicksell. If a hat sells within 1-2 days for its b/o in pure, one should be suspicious. However, since time to sell varies greatly among the type of hats (old vs new effects, misc vs hats, high tier vs low tier), this is not a reliable way to identify a quicksell."

Please learn the rules before commenting.

Yeaaah, here we go, the high-hatting. Was missing it. This 80 keys price comes from: a buyout that sold in a single day for pure. And, a sale where the hat was part of the overpay, not the one being bought. That's already two "suspicious" things, do you need any more or are you still going to think you're right and shit-talk me?

Only one person here is shit-talking man, calm down. Please.

There's not suspicious, they're proving a pattern. If this thing sells consistently for 80 key value, that should be in the range.

The bone dome is mini'ing at around 70 keys from the looks of it. This suggestion is fine.

"Please learn the rules before commenting."

"Come back with some evidence or I'm not interested."

"Calm yourselves, geez" even though I hadn't said anything wrong at that point

You're right, only one person is shit talking, and that's you. Because I am disagreeing, raising concerns, pointing out valid matters, sure as hell doesn't grant you the right to lack of respect. I'm all for debating, I'm all for being wrong and learning from that considering I am relatively new in suggesting, but I'm not gonna calm down if you are not capable of disagreeing while being respectful on the other hand.

Look, I'm sorry. I just really hate my comments sections spiralling into hyperbole and conjecture, its not what they're for and it happens every damn time.

So I try and keep it curt, but that's clearly only riled you. And I apologise for that.

If you're unsure about something, I'm pretty sure you're on my friends list, talk to me about it.

And don't pretend you're not at fault either, though.

The thing is, comments are here for that. I know you always have an ultra strict approach, but I don't understand how it actually affects you that someone is wondering about the validity of something, and doing "hyperbole and conjecture". It's not like it takes two hours of your time, or actually "spams" the page, like, flood with thousands of absolutely useless comments, and caps post or whatever it is that is real annoying.

I'm not on your friendlist, but I guess that will be the way to go in the future, I'll add if I ever have a new concern about one of your suggestions, since you like the comment page to be "clean".

Apologies too.

Wondering about the validity is fine. You can talk to me if you're "wondering" about the validity of something.

I prefer you to have something at least feasibly concrete when you come to a comment. I follow the same procedure, so if it's me being a dick at least I'm being a dick to myself as well, right? XD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27929982 100 keys

http://imgur.com/a/8zVuG

I will resuggest when I get home.