Suggestion: Stare from Beyond Executioner at 200 keys

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Stare from Beyond Executioner

Submitted Sun, 13 Mar 16 14:06:19 +0000 by ★ raf

50%

n/a

200 keys

~427.5 keys

stare

46 votes up

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This suggestion was marked as bad price range and closed Mon, 04 Apr 16 02:11:36 +0000 by Vijf Kilo Boter (met voetjes).

The price range was either too broad or did not accurately reflect how the item was traded. Therefore, this suggestion has been closed.

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Sold for a Scorching Stetson + 6 keys pure.

Proof: https://ctrlv.cz/BuM3

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198077234168?time=1457596800 - https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198077234168?time=1457683200

Mini on the Stetson: 199-200 keys, everyone is selling it for that:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27932596

Also strange Scorching one going for 350 if that helps:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27066783

The Stetson was also sold along with 12 keys pure for a Roboactive Samur -Eye(220)

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198077234168?time=1457424000 - https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198077234168?time=1457596800

take out the thing about the strange scroching one, it doesn't help

I just put it there in case people wondered. It doesn't damage the trade, I think.

Honestly it has nothing to do with this price suggestion because Strange hats have different values.

I did sell my stetson for a bulk deal where my buyout was 200 keys. That might be more relevant than just one seller. :)

Any chance you could provide the entirety of that deal? Can you screenshot the trade in your Trade History for us? =)

I sold it along a burning ground control + duped sunbeams hallmark + searing plasma guilded guard for a knifestorm team captain. Problem is that the team captain is worth much more than outdated bp.tf price, so it's not an usable sale, but I did accept it with a bo of 200 on my stetson. It is of note that, one month ago, another seller received an offer of death at dusk condor + pro ks aussie rocket launcher, easily capped at 200.

So, you sold the hat in a bulk deal along with other unpriced hats for an outdated TC? I hate to say it, but that does absolutely nothing to help support this suggestion, sadly. He needs sales data that can accurately show the range of the hat's price. It sounds to me like your sale is too complex to use as a mini, which is unfortunate.

I appreciate the input, but it doesn't seem like that's going to help in this situation. =(

Thanks captain! "[...] so it's not an usable sale"

I was saying this was at least more relevant than simply a seller. If it was completely usable, I'd have provided proofs and everything. Was just saying 200 is accurate. And I think Pimpy then sold it for a chiroptera reggaelattor, which might be even more relevant.

The Scorching Stetson is currently unpriced and needs a mini. Linking to a single seller whose buyout is 200 keys won't cut it, sadly. You need to provide an actual sale that shows the Stetson sold for that amount.

Everything else looks good, but until you can provide that data, I'll have to downvote. Supply a sale that shows the Stetson at 200 keys and I'll happily change my vote. ^-^

Lol, did you read before commenting? MagicGuy clearly had a b/o of 200 in a bulk deal

And I still haven't seen that sales data. Perhaps instead of "LUL L2READ" you should be more helpful and provide that data?

Like I said, as soon as I see credible data for the mini on that Stetson, I'll happily support this suggestion. But as of right now, all we have is "I sold this for 200 keys in a bulk deal", which is NOT proof.

Dude, didn't you read my last sentence? I showed that the Stetson was sold along with 12 keys for a Roboactive Samur. Isn't that enough proof?

I must admit I missed that link. My apologies. There is a lot of unnecessary data in your OP, so I must have glazed over it.

EDIT: After checking the deal, the 12 keys was obtained seperately from the Stetson. I don't believe that it was part of the original deal. Also, you need to calculate the fact that the buyer also received ~25 keys worth of strange weapons with the Stetson for that deal, putting it closer to the 180 range. It makes a minimal impact on the sale, but it does change it slightly.

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198077234168?time=1457596800

When filtered by "Sort by Time", it shows the 12 keys were obtained before the Stetson in a different trade. It also shows the Stetson was obtained alongside a Spec. KS Gold Botkiller Sniper with ~7-8 keys in parts, a Strange Spec. KS Festive Stickybomb Launcher, and a Strange Spec. KS Grenade Launcher.

Lol, if you really didn't believe them, down vote... Your loss lmao. You can just compare their backpack's dates...

It isn't a matter of "belief". It's a matter of providing tangible data to support the range of the sale. I'm at absolutely no loss whatsoever by downvoting a suggestion I feel doesn't adequately portray the correct price of the hat, so I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at. That aside, when a suggestion is presented, I shouldn't have to be bothered to dig for extra data. That's the submitter's job to provide.

And by the way, does "lol", "kek", or "lmao" ever actually help you advance a point, or are you just habitually typing that way? Honestly curious, because it makes you sound incapable of stringing together rational sentences.

https://backpack.tf/item/3175904782

This hat has changed hands a good 4 times in the past three months. There's PLENTY of sales here to establish a range. I'm convinced a single sale should not be used to price this hat, especially one that has no sustainable value because it's based on a single unpriced hat.

For example, the previous owner had a sale that shows the hat in question was traded for a Searing Plasma Hong Kong Cone, a Collector's Pro KS Half-Zatoichi, and about another key in cosmetic sweets, bringing the price of that sale to ~145-150.

Before: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198184906902?time=1457164800

After: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198184906902?time=1457251200

And here's yet another sale involving the Executioner, where the Executioner and a Sunbeams Stainless Pot (125) were traded for a Screaming Tiger Buy a Life Taunt (75), a Sulphurous Hat of Cards (65), and a Phosphorous Party Phantom (120), bringing the total deal to 260, meaning that the Executioner was priced at 140.

Before: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198184906902?time=1453017600

After: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198184906902?time=1453190400

Seems to me the range should probably priced at 140-150, and this sale should be disregarded as A.) Outlier, and B.) Too complicated to use to price.

So why exactly are we trying to price it on a single sale that involved an unpriced hat, when we have plenty of other solid evidence that is being disregarded?

Feel free to use this data and resubmit your suggestion. If you don't wish to do so, I'll happily counter.

Please check ALL of the sales on a hat before posting a suggestion next time. Thanks.

EDIT: A counter has been posted that looks MUCH more accurate. I'll be putting my vote there. http://backpack.tf/vote/id/56e5a900ba8d88ea0f186350

You don't really understand trading, do you? First, let me kick of by saying this: In all these sales, including mine, there were a lot of old-priced unusuals involved. And who's fault is that? BACKPACK.TF'S FOR NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE SALES WHATSOEVER. And that sale with the unusual taunt.. You do know that almost every unusual taunt on backpack.tf is underpriced? Heck, I had an unusual taunt worth 90 and I sold it for 150! Dude, Backpack.tf is not really taht reliable and stop using it as a bible.

"You don't really understand trading, do you?"

Says the white belt with zero accepted price suggestions, and a ~$1k backpack.

How do you not understand that backpack.tf is a community-based site, where all of their suggestions come 100% from community-based work? If a price is outdated, it's only because of 1 of 2 reasons: Either there hasn't been ANY reportable sales on the item in question, or nobody in the community has bothered to price the item.

You don't need to get shitty with me because I know how to adequately price items using this system and you don't. I was just trying to help. But my interaction with you is now done. There is a much more accurate suggestion for this hat live, and that's the one I will be voting for.

Do some better research next time and provide better proof of your sales claims. You do a terrible job at it. And if it were me, I'd just close this suggestion before a mod does it. Not sure if you're aware of it, but any time a suggestion is closed by a moderator, it impacts your approval rating negatively.

The sale I provided is just as good as any you can find. The Stetson has been selling and is selling for 200. And you just said it, it's the community's fault for not keeping up with the prices. So why do you even bother?

You need to go look at the other suggestion and see why your Stetson sale is an outlier. I'm done explaining things to you.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/56e5a900ba8d88ea0f186350

I just contacted the person who had bothe the Stetson and the Executioner. The HKC sale is not valid because the HKC is worth a lot more and you guys didn't even bother to check what offers it's been getting snd what's it been selling for. you have everything I'm talking about in The Mighty Bob's suggestion: https://backpack.tf/vote/id/56e5a900ba8d88ea0f186350

You STILL have absolutely no idea how things are priced on this website. Please stop trying to erroneously price things and go read the rules before pursuing any more suggestions.

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-guide-for-unusual-price-suggestions/

Maybe I don't. But go ahead and ask the guy with the Searing HKC yourself and prove me wrong!

That's not how it works. I don't have to prove you wrong. You have to prove your claims are correct.

Just go ahead and ask the guy yourself.

I normally leave suggestions with counters open until I accept either one, but since Im not sure if im gonna accept either of them, I may as well close up the one with the least potential.

There have been plenty of sales below 200 and it has been unsold for quite a while at 150. 200 flat is definitely too high; at the very least, a range will be needed here