Is this suggestion necessary? It was just updated a day ago

This seems like the most pointless suggestion I've ever seen.

Why are you using a terrible and convoluted sales like sale #3, and a really flimsy sale like sale #4 (your mini is literally 'i saw it somewhere' and a few sales based on outdated hats - cloud crasher price is a year old) to raise the price by 10 keys when there is a full pure sale for a clean version that was recently accepted?

The reason I accepted the other suggestion (I did not close yours, I accepted the suggestion I deemed most properly displaying the price) is not as shallow as you depict it here. I thought I had made myself clear, but I am going to try again.

- The sale that was used to update this was a clean sale for full pure, within 3 months. Since we are trying to capture pure values, that sale is as clear as it is going to get.

- Regarding the dupes: I am aware the last suggestion is based on a dupe; I made that suggestion myself back then. That was because there were no clean sales. Since the dupe had 1 properly appraisable sale, I used it to update it at that moment.

If you are going to involve duped sales, you cannot simply pick the highest duped sale and use that with as reasoning that "even a dupe can sell for that". As I said before, if you're going to involve duped sales, you will have to compare the clean and the duped averages. If clean averages are consistently lower than duped averages or if clean sales are simply not present, you can use duped sales that are higher. Since the duped one has been for sale with a BO of 270 for several months, it is apparent that a dupe should not be valued higher than 270, especially not if the sales you are using involve highly outdated hats with very questionable minis.

The clearest duped sale that occurred, with full-on in-date hats was the sale linked to that buyout of 270. That sale was roughly ~250, which is a very reasonable appraisal for a dupe given the time that BO has been open. Im not saying it cannot sell for more in hats etc, but to value it higher in a suggestion is not the way to go.

For more info on a similar situations:

High duped sales as outliers:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/56ac2b70ba8d888126bd0532

Including duped sales where lower clean ones are present:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5549152aba8d88600f8b45d8

Basing updates on a mixture of clean and duped sales:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/56635f0aba8d886e20a94bce

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/56490c17ba8d88495ca94ad4

- Regarding the rifleman:

You should not "give in to my insistence" and then still ignore half of the sales I provided. When I explain something Im not trying to destroy suggestions or whatever, Im trying to bring a point across. The point I was making about the rifleman is that it has sales all over the place. The sale you mentioned should be around ~300, the stahl sale should be ~250 tops (Since its still based on an unsold mini, often resulting in values that are too high), and I mentioned two other sales that were ~230 (that requires a few minis, but it should be relatively close) and ~170. If you're going to use that (or update that; Ill probably request an update there since it seems to bring problems), it is probably best to take out the 300 and the 170 sales as outliers and go with the middle sales of 230 and 250. In this specific case Id probably put it at 230 flat and use it to update the stahlhelm, but thats irrelevant here.

Seeing the report you made against me I feel you question my objectiveness, so I will leave this open for another mod to assess it.