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Nuts n' Bolts Steel Shako
Submitted by Clagger
~8 keys
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Unusual Steel Shako Nuts n' Bolts
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NOT A TROLL SUGGESTION PLEASE READ FULL PROOF I ACTUALLY SOLD THIS


So folks here we have possibly the most controversial suggestion to exist, I mean I did sell the lowest tier soldier unusual for 100 keys, So LETS GET ROIGHT INTO THE NUDES


No other recent sales. I sold it for a duped harvest Grimme Hatte: 145 keys But has to be capped off at 100 cuz of my B/o

My bp before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198066701092?time=1461369600

And after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198066701092?time=1461456000

Shako history: http://backpack.tf/item/4727586564 (I unboxxed that :P)

Outpost: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28058604#p64883510


Mini for grimme:

Sold for 144 keys

Before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197994917687?time=1457251200

After: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197994917687?time=1457337600

History of grimme: http://backpack.tf/item/1248011955


Some of you may be going BUT BUT ACE YOU PRICE MANIPULATOR YOU'VE TRIEDE TO PULL THIS SHIT OFF BEFORE, If you actually take a moment to check out that 'price manipulation' you'll come to realize it was obvious trolling from a younger more ignorent mwah. Others Will go BUT YOU'VE BEEN FRIENDS WITH THIS GUY FOREVER WHICH MAKE THIS TRADE FAKE, to that i must retort well yes we have been friends for a while, does that make this trade any less genuine? I was selling it for a certain price, and he offered (miraculously) with the promise from me that I can make it that price I'm as surprised as you are, but we're 2 consenting adults, and now he has the shako in his bp, and I the grimme. And there's no other sales anywhere so This is it. Bring it on bitches

    I have mixed feelings about this. I just... I like...


    I don't know. gz on sale

      I know babe. I'm honestly at surprised as you are.

    but...


    why

    upvote

      it looks like u duped it seeing as how u both have the same unusual in yall's bp

      This seems incredibly high, most likely an outlier.

        It is incredibly high, but no other sales. And 100 was my B/o so The way i see it is well that it works

          Does not matter that there are no other sales, this is an outlier based on common sense.

            Not an out-liar if my b/o was such, and someone was willing to pay it

              Yes, it is. A realistic price for this would not be anywhere near 100 keys. Don't make me repeat myself: an outlier does not necessarily need other sales to be defined. It happened already that suggestions are not accepted because the only sale that could be valid is not realistic. This, is not realistic. It's an outlier.


              Not mentionning the fact this is obvious manipulation, just the comment of the guy on Outpost is hilariously staged. It is the first time I have ever seen someone say "well, if you can make your buyout the new price on bp.tf, then I will buy it".

                ur opinion. i think at the end of the day I think this matters on the judgement of a moderator. Cuz its could fly both ways

                  Wait, you actually think there any chances this passes? Lel, I'm done. Avoid the caps, the "nudes" and the "bitches" and then maybe there would be a remote chance for you to be taken seriously.

                    There will be no need for the judgement of a moderator - we have experienced suggesters mentioning their informed "opinions". Needless to say, the outpost trade shouts the words "incredibly biased and unrealistic" for a B/O of 100 keys.

          This smells like a way to scam bots buying unusuals based on backpack.tf prices.

            My amigo isn't too much into trading and honestly doesn't care *cuz he's rich, and gets whatever he wants* and thought it would be funny to make the shako 100 keys. So he offered, and we traded. I can't give you anymore of a real explanation of what happened due to it being so simple. And I'm still kinda amazed myself

              You saying "funny to make the shako 100 keys" doesn't help convince viewers of this suggestion.

                I know, But its the truth :/ I'm not gunna sit here and try to convince you guys, I'm just going to state the facts as they went down

            Downvoted, too much.

            If someone sold NnB tree for 1000 keys, then is it 1000 when burning is being sold less then 500? No sense.

              Due to how most likely this is an outlier, additional sales would be required to verify its actual value.

                its so funny that they hide behind the rules, right up until the rules don't support their idea of something's value.


                Then they ignore the rules.

                  yep Honestly couldn't agree more, and I've come to understand y so many hate the pricing community

                    The suggestion would still have to wait a month for another sale if we "hide behind the rules", to see if another sale happens. That's without even considering whether or not it's attempted price manipulation, and assuming there are actually no sales in the past 3 months on any of the others that exist.

                      I've made other price suggestions in which there was only 1 sale, and those got accepted within a day. Just cuz this is incredibly high makes it different?

                        If it's for an unpriced unusual, it can only be priced with a single sale if either all that are known to exist (usually 1/1) are owned by collectors, it's above a certain value, or after waiting a month to see if there are any more sales. Since there are plenty of these in existence, it can't realistically fall under the first category, it's not high enough to fall under the second category, and so it'll wait a month before it can be accepted.


                        There's also the fact that it's suspicious as all hell to price this at higher than any other effect, but that's not in "Da Rules".

                          the suspicion is the complaint though. go read through these posts No one is providing proof of other sales within the months or saying lets wait a month and see. They're just bashing.

                          Generally speaking only one sale can only be used for either any hat just being updated or a hat w/ no price under the circumstances were the hat is 1 of 1, with only a single sale in the pasts months or when collectors are involved. And as you aren't premium you confirm the other 9 haven't been sold in the last 3 months.


                          Besides that this is clear cut intent to manipulate the price with the buyer agreeing on the basis the hat would be raised to the specific price.

                      the two are a long time friend are trying to manipulate prices the two should be banned

                      check Link http://imgur.com/JLbNER5 http://imgur.com/8htJWoP

                        " BUT YOU'VE BEEN FRIENDS WITH THIS GUY FOREVER WHICH MAKE THIS TRADE FAKE, to that i must retort well yes we have been friends for a while, does that make this trade any less genuine? I was selling it for a certain price, and he offered (miraculously) with the promise from me that I can make it that price I'm as surprised as you are, but we're 2 consenting adults, and now he has the shako in his bp, and I the grimme" Lol I love those whom cant read for the love of god

                          Even better, a post from 2013 ! http://i.imgur.com/hZoLAFM.png

                          (Finally something we both agree ghost Soldier, took some time ... :P)

                          In all honesty, I smell price manipulation.

                          Whatever, this suggestion won't pass anyway.

                            Um... I guess an option would be to prove this things value by putting it up for sale and seeing what people offer - if he gets offers in the 100 range it means this is fine. Same way the collector's dead of night suggestion went. But I think that would be taking this suggestion to seriously, lol.

                              A Harvest High Tier medic hat for something that's basically expensive metal


                              I can't be the only one that thinks it's staged

                              The funny thing is, i'm not

                                You are telling me that someone paid a duped harvest moon medic unusual, 4 times of that of a scorching steel shako, albeit outdated, for what is essentially one of the worst effects on a glorified piece of hat-shaped metal

                                This is most definitely an outlier and this suggestion will not pass.


                                You would think people won't smell something fishy right here.


                                Stop. this is a pathetic attempt at price manipulation

                                  I think what I'm hating with a passion is he thinks anyone will fall for that. He's taking everyone, including himself, for fools, which has got to be extremely irritating.

                                  well, if this trade were accepted, then you would take the unu back.If this happen, I will make the price unpriced by telling to admin and you will banned from bp.tf.

                                    I mean, whatever or not this manipulation is accepted, it will comes out that this suggestion is manipulation with some proof.

                                      i know who just disliked my comments.

                                    I dont get why he bought this for over than 100

                                      I know this is old and invalid, but a N&B Steel Shako was previously for sale at 13 keys which I think was just under a bud at the time (Nearly 2 years ago)


                                      http://bazaar.tf/trade/808008


                                      I'm convinced this sale was staged manipulation.

                                        *sigh* everyone thinks/says I need more proof, and they don't believe I actually sold it, due to us being old friends (even though this shit actually went through) :/ ima close this tell him to try to sell it for 100 keys and comeback when I have more proof of other sales that don't involve me selling it to only a old friend cuz I can understand how suspicious this does seem. Well folks I'll be back hopefully with more proof lator... Till then I guess.