Suggestion: Mann Co. Supply Crate Key at 17.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26954396 restocker, are you sure all their keys have been unsold? also this is a buyer at 18, so this goes towards countering your suggestion

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28125465 young

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28112380 dead trade, unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28117948 dead trade, unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28096682 poorly bumped

I'm not going to go through every link, but really doesn't look good

Sorry first time posting, wanted to try it out :p

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28112483 dead trade, unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28105191 dead trade, unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28069221 you have two of this link

you should just close this, a ton of your "Unsolds at 18ref" aren't even sellers at 18ref, a bunch are invalid as I've pointed out, and you countered yourself with buyers at 17.66+

I'd never suggest doing a key suggestion as your first, start with something simpler. or better yet use the site for a while and vote on things and read the guide(s)

There are still many sales at 18. Please take this down, you also do not have appropriate evidence... Mostly unbumped

You can't lower the price with buyers, and many of your buyers at 17.66 are actually buying at 17.88-18. Many of your 18 ref unsolds have sold. Closing.

Unsolds at 18 ?

Most of the links you have provided are buyers, which counter your price of 17.66 ref. None of them are selling for 17.66 ref, either. 17.66 is not a common trading point.

while dealing with largely traded items, such as keys, you're going to need a LOT more proof than what you have now

I added in a new section

What ever happened to key suggestion cooldowns?

Please provide more 18 ref unsolds.

Done, just for you <3

I commend you for your serious commitment

Thank you sir

I believe this is invalid due to the fact the price just updated two hours ago and the economy has not had time to adjust.

A few buyers at 18 still buying, i sold today 10 keys for 18 ref each. Last suggestion is a few hours old. This is unecessary

I have 58 keys and vote everytime for key price going down. I fight for this.

I have some question and I want some help please.

This voting system is not intuitive.

What means "up" and "down" icons in the voting system?

There are 2 interpretations:

-Up for if you want the price get up.

- Or the other: Up means that you agree with the proposal.

What is correct?

I think backpack had a strong motivation to change the old system for the new one. This new system with up and down are so stupid

the ^ means you agree with the suggestion, the v means you disagree with the suggestion. it's intuitive

Buyers around 17 ref can't be used to decrease the price.

Also, your "unsolds" are not unsolds. Most are just bots

Some of your links have actually sold for 18

I think the current price looks good for now

A lot of buyers at 18 ref

Sorry dude but this price suggestion shouldn't and probably won't count because there has just been an update to the price so it will take a bit of time for all of the prices to update to it. So I suggest wait a few days and then make a suggestion. Until then downvote. Sorry dude. I suggest taking this down.

The time between suggestions NEVER matter. What suggestions do is give the price of TODAY, not yesterday. He/she has the every right to suggest, even if there was an accepted suggestion three minutes ago, as long as the MARKET CHANGES BY THEN.

Well the market still needs time to adjust from the old price. This proof he/she put up could be from the old price and they haven't seen the new price to change.

this could be considered a counter though?

Actually yeah, sorry I didn't think of that.

Linus Trade Bot buying at 18ref, those under 18ref OP buyer prob haven't see bp.tf key price since its hasen't been 24h

I have to downvote this, I've sold 2 keys to 2 different people for 19 refined each. making the keys go down by .33 while it's currently only just gone up to 18 refined, is not a correct price suggestion.

Proof of Sales: http://imgur.com/a/ka41y

Scrap.tf changed their prices for keys. They are buying for 17.88 and selling for 18. But they still hardly ever have keys so I think we need to up the price. Or maybe we need to down the price, whatever makes people sell their keys.

or not. if they're buying ay 17.88, and if bptf's pricing at 18ref per key is accurate, why would tons of people sell to scraptf at less than the current market value? and we shouldn't be changing the prices here so that more people sell their keys, backpacktf isn't supposed to lead the market

Scrap.tf uses bots, so everything is done faster then if you traded with a person. The people who are looking to sell their keys for pure fast (quick sellers) will go to scrap.tf since the pure they are paying for is just a scrap less then the price. Scrap.tf doesn't lead the market, but they are following and paying attention to what people are buying and selling(for the most part anyway).

Many buyers/sellers are in 18 ref and many of those are poorly unbumped and some are closed/dead

Many dead links. Those that aren't have now changed their prices and are selling for 18 or more. You didn't give the market time to adjust.

No more valid 17.66 sellers in the classies

buyers for 18, nah