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Okay, let's try this again. I removed my buy order for 1.77 and let the sell orders queue up (for 1.77).
(Thanks to pokerpo)
[bold] Solds: [/bold]
(2 at 1.88, 7 at 1.77, 1 at 1.55)
http://imgur.com/a/OKZOw
[bold] Unsolds [/bold] at 2:
http://i.imgur.com/Vit1UXh.png
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28130538
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28115014
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28120370
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28066104
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28087713
http://postimg.org/image/xltdw4zep/ - still another buyer at 1.77
you were quickbuying @ 1.77 so that doesn't really help your case with the price with all your quickbuy screenies
downvoting
That's a level collector, not a regular buyer; they are willing to pay more to finish their collection.
As for me purchasing at 1.77, I wasn't quickbuying, I was buying the listings for 1.77 until they ran out then made a buy order for 1.77. The fact that there are plenty of listings for 1.77 and unsolds for 2ref should make it pretty apparent that they are currently over-valued.
there's no bumped or valids on classies for 1.77 tho makin it real difficult to accept 1.77 as the most common trade point. You were quickbuying. You had a buy order up - http://postimg.org/image/lkatn0e1d/
There are plenty of sell orders for 1.77 now. I don't have a buy order for 1.77 anymore because people were railing that there were no sell orders for 1.77 (because I had bought them all). So I took it down, and now there are sell orders for 1.77 again. http://i.imgur.com/Vit1UXh.png
You're misrepresenting quickbuying as just being a buy order below list price. A buy order for the market equilibrium price is not quickbuying. Why would I pay the list price (2ref) when the going price is 1.77? Why would I buy them for more than market equilibrium? I'm giving them away, I'm not going to overpay for them.
It seems your idea of 'quickbuying' is akin to buying something from Amazon for 60% of what it sells for at Best Buy, instead of realizing Best Buy is marking it up 66% of what they pay for it.
current classies - http://postimg.org/image/t65fanzgh/ - where is the 'plenty of them @ 1.77 ? I must be blind
There's 3 listings for 1.77 or lower. I already got an offer this morning for 1.55. That 1.88 and 1.77s have been there for about 4 days (conveniently when I removed my 1.77 buy order). The 2ref listings have been there for well over a week. Do I have to wait for there to be 40 listings before you realize 2ref is too high?
well prove that. it's not about opinions or what people think, it's about proof provided. prove 1.77 is the most common trade point and that 2 doesn't sell. otherwise it's fine where it is. that's how pricing suggestions work.
I did that. In the first post.
I linked to 5 outpost trades dating up to 3 weeks old with unsold towers for 2ref.
I would implore you to read the first post on suggestions instead of attacking the person making them.
no, I saw the links u put up. the first 2 were closed. the 3rd is poorly bumped, the 4th is a friend of mine who hasn't been online much in weeks because his computer broke (1.9 hours in 2 weeks to be exact), and the 5th is poorly bumped
Being "poorly bumped" is not a reason to discount those trades. Outpost has a search option. If you're looking for any item on Outpost purely by sifting through new, you're doing it wrong. I have provided ample evidence for my case and it seems you're just wanting to argue purely for the sake of arguing, without adding anything productive to the dialogue. I will not be discussing this any further with you.
sellers at 1.66, 1.72, and 1.77 in classies
http://puu.sh/oISMb.png
yes, all unbumped and young = invalid. bp pricing is not merely based off the lowest available. that is why a lot of items have a range. it is to reflect the most common trading points. when an item is unbumped it makes it invalid for several reasons, 1 of which could mean the user has not / is not online a lot or enough to accept a trade offer. if there was even a couple that were more than a day old and bumped they would be valid to lower a price on. that is why even with auto-bumps the user has to be online. bumping also puts the item on the 'front page' of outpost or classies making it readily tradable for. a lot of users won't even bother sending trade offers to unbumped ones because either the item / metal will go untradable (used in another trade) etc... and it is hard to keep track of what was going to what trade if you are at all an active trader. this logic is also applied to poorly bumped outpost trades as well. hope that explains all that sufficiently. my word-put-togethers aren't always the most explanitory.
unbumped doesnt matter on bp.tf
curious where you get that from?
moderators, ask them
any reason why 1.88 is an outlier?