Suggestion: Anti-Freeze Law at 725 keys

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~750 keys

anti-freeze

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Sale 1 -

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197990172296#!/compare/1462060800/1462233600 Sold for a burning coldsnap cap

725

Sale 2:

Circling Peace Sign Hottie's Hoodie + Purple Energy Sergeant's Drill Hat + Strange Haunted Ghosts A Well Wrapped Hat

Histories:

http://backpack.tf/item/1013212670 - Hoodie

http://backpack.tf/item/361787558 - Drill

http://backpack.tf/item/4737294664 - Well Wrapped Hat

I consider that honestly as more of a shark than a trade. I talked with Juger about the trade and he said that he really didn't like what he got at all

Well Wrapped hat sold for a painted cow mangler which sold for 300 keys, but Well Wrapped hat was capped at 250. Does seem kinda low ;-;

well then wait for a third sale to determine which is the outlier

Why would I do that? With a simple application of common sense its pretty safe to assume that a sale at 400 doesnt accurately price a hat with an 800 key seller and a 725 sale

because it's unpriced, and rules

" Part 3. Determining an optimal range / identifying outliers

•Unpriced hats – hats that have never had a proper suggestion or have no price

Two sales are required to establish a range on unpriced hats. If the two sales are discrepant, a third sale is required to determine the outlier. "

The other sale is irrelevant and im sure that any price mod would agree with me on that matter

*waits for mod*

thanks for the vote ...

but now I have this hat. I think I can sell it more expensive than the 725 ... I think better to wait for a third sale ..

*waits for mod*))

Umm if you think you could get more than 725 for it why do you think that 400 is a valid sale

I consider that honestly as more of a shark than a trade...

Then, like I said, theres no reason to wait.

You should wait for a third sale to determine which is an outlier. 725 seems a bit high for AF imo.

Roboactive and Anti-freeze Laws are asking 800 each though, so I think 725 is fair (ik roboactive isn't anti freeze, but the two effects are similar based on rarity,tier, and average price)

That's possible, but if I put a unique hat up for 700 keys, does that mean that all laws/TCs are 700? no.

Also, if this suggestion got passed, it would put AF above ghosts + GE.

Well, honestly, anti freeze should easily be higher than ghosts and green energy :p

Also, this hat is 1 of 1. How would this hat sell for lower than 725 if that's what the only owner paid for it xD

Sure, but there have been two sales, not one sale.

One of which was clearly a shark

do you have proof that it was a shark?

I talked with Juger (The original owner) about the trade and he felt as though he got an awful deal for his hat (repeatedly telling me how annoyed and angry he was that he took such a horrible offer)

In fact, I had even added him and offered him more than what Herbs (the person who bought the hat from juger) was paying

I don't believe that constitutes a "shark".

How exactly would 300~ be a legitimate sale on a hat that sold for 725 and selling for 800?

That sale wasn't 300.. Circling Peace Sign Hottie's Hoodie + Purple Energy Sergeant's Drill Hat + Strange Haunted Ghosts A Well Wrapped Hat. Hoodie + Drill = ~80

Wrapped hat is probably ~400-500

Again, it doesn't matter what the hat is being sold for. If I quick buy an 8 key unusual and sell it for 100, that doesn't mean that the hat is worth 100 keys.

Stop posting mindless information and actually provide me with something that could help me with a suggestion...

YES I know that "If I quick buy an 8 key unusual and sell it for 100, that doesn't mean that the hat is worth 100 keys." but that hat obviously wouldn't be priced at 8 keys. If your knowledge of trading is truly this limited, you really should just stop posting

This is not mindless information. The point I'm making is that you should wait for another sale.

You're accusing me of not having knowledge in trading?

Your point is ignorant and the evidence you provided to back up your statement was almost entirely irrelevant

And yes, you clearly don't have any knowledge in trading

k then

I'd love if someone would check for recent sales on the coldsnap. Afaik, it isn't near the 725 anymore since the suggestion.

Price was still in date when I made the suggestion ;-;

Did a sale occur that was lower than 725?

I think so, but I can't check since I'm on my phone, frankly :/

I'll try nonetheless

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198083288968#!/compare/1464480000/1464652800

Here's one for starters. Would make it about 430 keys or so.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197990172296#!/compare/1462579200/1462752000

Another sale, TC is VERY in date.

Makes it much much lower again.

There are other sales as well

Additionally, the scorching and sunbeams are around 400, and the ~350 key sale was disregarded in the previous suggestion for it.

Seems like it was priced on an outlier

You definitely have a point. Ill resuggest most likely

The coldsnap just needs an update. You could suggest that and then use that to update this Law :)

i'll do that now ty

Actually, could you do it? I can't really seem to find any sales for the Samur-eye (most likely due to my abundance of backpack.tf premium ;-;)

I dont have premium either :P

Maybe I'll do it when I get home tomorrow

coldsnap was sold for < 700 after this trade