Suggestion: Circling Heart Chill Chullo at 145–175 keys

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~51.5 keys

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Resuggesting, using only proof from old suggestion and a range excluding high and low outliers.

Chullo A:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198035897364#!/compare/1466812800/1466899200 - my purchase for Ghost Samur (46-48), Searing Lucky Shot (115, outdated), and 40 keys pure.

Searing Lucky Shot: Two classifieds, both under current bp.tf price: https://gyazo.com/707216e9a784fae551e3dda54b7db750

Unable to find narrow down sales of the Lucky Shot since it left my inventory, but considering higher tier effects being priced lower (ie. Heart @ 107-108, Secret @ 87, G.E. @ 110, Moon @ 88-104, P.E. @ 64-83, Vivid @ 46, last three outdated), I think I can safely assume the value should not exceed the lowest of the current higher-tier effects, in this case the Secret, so I'm matching those values for now @ 87 keys. This puts the sale at 173 keys, rounding to 175 (used as high value).

http://imgur.com/y8lEW92 purchased for $280 USD on steam market (~113 keys, excluded)

Chullo B:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28364036 - unsold @ 200

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197998157758#!/compare/1469232000/1469318400 - used with a P. Fetti Tough Stuff Muffs (unpriced, owner requesting 100 keys on classifieds: https://gyazo.com/411a2f883b906f0f28a320303880aa9e ) + Roboactive Brown Bomber (213-224) for a Harvest Moon Stash (630) (all hats clean). Counting the BB at 224 and the Tough Stuff at Sniper Noob's requested price, the Chullo covered for 306 keys. Stash seller's comment: https://gyazo.com/bf11115d842b77ae663f3e187546846a

306 key value excluded, Harvest Stash could use a drop imo.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198107740754#!/compare/1468195200/1468281600 is as far as I am able to narrow down: competing suggester showed the chullo being traded 1:1 for a Time Warp Salty dog, later sold for 145 keys here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28339687 (145 set as low value).

Chullo C:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198126204929#!/compare/1469232000/1469318400 - Frostbite KE (690 bp.tf, 800 requested here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/325454 ) sold for HPJr HKC (unpriced, new owner wants 500 keys: https://gyazo.com/51d080bf79857d3474fdef35b2bc9b0d ), DBD War Pig (125) and Heart Chullo (filling anywhere between 65-175 keys worth, being sold for 200 keys here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28363564 )

Competing suggester found it later sold for a Harvest Reggaelator (~180, giving credence to listed high value)

Chullo D:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28362026 - unsold @ 190 keys

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198038820744#!/compare/1467504000/1467590400 - apparently a mass Market sale, needs investigating.

If you find any proof that would require me to tweak my range further, do post it here and I will resuggest as needed. Specifically not using competing suggester's own proof for reasons that should be obvious, check it out for yourself.

Most of these are bulk sales, therefore unusable.

Just let the other suggestion roll out

The P Jr HKC + War pig sale is ridiculous, I have no idea how you're using it to be quite frank. It's not only a bulk sale, where the chullo takes up less than 30% of the trade, but the main hat of the trade is also unpriced.

You're also disregarding the Reggae sale. It was freshly priced at 180.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198086312574#!/compare/1469318400/1469404800

https://gyazo.com/317ac17986c679f29b7a1f2c697d611f

Didn't disregard, I'm just not a thief like your friend. Check under Chullo C: "Competing suggester found it later sold for a Harvest Reggaelator (~180, giving credence to listed high value)" Stop spamming my suggestion, did you at all notice that I excluded both bulk sales?

I don't understand where you've drawn your prices from then? How is it 145-175 when you've literally included a 180 trade?

You're sounding like some mafia goon over a price suggestion, and it would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. What's it to you?

Because I own the hat, and this is ridiculously underpriced? You're skipping 2-3 vital sales and using sales that should never be used

And you're ignoring that I own the hat and had originally suggested at 180, which josh turned into a range of 175-185 (shows up exactly the same as 180). You're sounding more and more desperate by the second, quit while you're ahead.

Just explain to me how the high range is 175 when there's literally a 1:1 with a freshly priced hat at 180?

Price range on that hat is 160-200, and it's a dupe. What exactly is your point?

My point is that the middle of that range, and the price of the hat on this site is 180, and you're valuing below that? Also, it's priced off of the duped version.

The other suggestion is much better than this. You're lacking minis, missing out sales that hav taken place and using bulk, unusable sales. The other suggestion is fine and has my up vote.

So where was your comment on my previous 180 key suggestion? At this point neither suggestion is good, considering how Josh is ignoring several low sales for no real reason. 10 key range just to have a range is pointless, and it averages out to 180 anyway. The bulk sales aren't meant to set a price: they're meant to show that the hat has covered for some out-there values. Only single sales have been counted, and I'm specifically not including sales he found on principle. If my range is not acceptable, how is his?

He has a legitimate reason to not include the lower sales which has been mentioned before. His range is acceptable as he is using actual sales with correct values and getting a good range from them. This is getting a range from a handful of sales, including bulks, and taking random inaccurate values. Your're allowed to use sales that he's found but this is better being closed than resuggested as he has the correct range.

Why are you using the low end based off a quicksell price? The Time Warp Salty is in date at 172.5 so your low end is wrong.

Chullo B Sale 1 is bulk and not usable. Same with Chullo C Sale 1.

Chullo A I cannot understand what you are trying to say about the Lucky Shot's price but it is Unsold for almost 1 month at 100 on classies so you would cap at that until a sale is determined.

The other suggestion looks to be more accurate than this.

Done responding until a mod comments.

A mod won't waste their time. Please close this while you're ahead.

The low end here is going to be problematic. The time warp salty has an established, recently accepted value at 177. Valuing it here at 145 is going to be off. So both of the sales you are using here are really around ~175-180 or so.