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What a nuisance.
4 recent sales.
Sale 1:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197987183850#!/compare/1469750400/1469836800
1:1 for a Spellbound Law(1075)
1075 total.
Sale 2:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198116536922#!/compare/1465257600/1465344000
Sold for 545 keys pure.
Not using, low outlier and could be a quicksell.
Sale 3:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198176090951#!/compare/1465948800/1466035200
Sold for a Frostbite Crone's(1065) and shit.(~17)
1082 total rounding to 1080.
Sale 4:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198176090951#!/compare/1466035200/1466121600
No clue, histories don't match.
Rolling with 1075-1080.
http://backpack.tf/suggestion/5763bb2c86674750e9641bda
You can't use the crones sale, it was manipulate-y as hell.
Also hi invisible mod comment
Dammit, thought it was fine to use now like everyone said.
The owner of the VVF Sold it for the Crone's, hated the Crone's, so he bought the VVF back in 2 days. It's still a sale.
Even if the Crone's sale (1,080) is not usable, with the recent sale with the Spellbound Law (1,075), the average pricing difference will be negligible and should not matter.
What you're giving me is hearsay, you have no proof of that. The buyer / sellers were both highly aware of the open suggestion, manipulation is just as likely an explanation. You cannot use that sale. Not because it is manipulation, but because it might be.
I'm not sure I buy the "close enough" argument, cause the actual price rn, though close, is misleading.
Point made.
Much Much better :) Upvoting .
I would easily buy this for 600 keys, that 545 sale wow
i know right ;) ez flip
Darkblaze > Secret confirmed???!?!?!?!??!1ONE1!!?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28346728 this says 800 on the viewfinder, not sure if a sale matches to this b/o or not, but yeah
http://backpack.tf/suggestion/579c6089866747401346b237
This was already addressed in a previous suggestion which has been closed. I can confirm with AfricanDrugLord's comments in the previous thread. A. has been advertising his viewfinder for 1,100 - 1,300 keys for weeks on outpost/classifieds. When I contacted African (broker) to trade for the viewfinder, I was quoted a B/O of 1,100 keys and was initially asked to add 25-50 keys on top of my Law to meet that requirement. I was able to negotiable and acquire it for slightly less than his B/O, but regardless the outpost B/O was obviously too low and quickly changed. I would have ended up paying a lot less if that was the case. The owner's previous offers on the viewfinder were also way above 800 keys, indicating that it was indeed superficially low.
Proof: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28239453
This range seems to be right, having owned the secret virtual viewfinder along with other high tier misc, there would be no doubt in my mind that the sale for 545 pure was really low. In the past I have offered A, a sunbeams brown bomber + adds when it was priced at 1000 keys for the vvf, but it was declined.
Fits the range imo, upvoted.
I think this suggestion again illustrates the difference in pure value vs unusual value on items.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27538814 - this was up for 6 months at a b/o of 700 keys before lowering to 550 to actually sell it. The pure value of this is not over 700. I would argue the 1070 sale is the outlier here given the previous b/o of 800 was sitting for a few weeks as well.
I would say that the two sales are discrepant here and we need to wait for another sale to define the range. Best to wait here.