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Sales @20.11:
Sold:
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198311725787#!/compare/1471305600/1471392000 - sold 15 keys - http://imgur.com/a/F4XYU
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198304727898#!/compare/1471305600/1471392000 - sold 3 keys - http://imgur.com/a/KAlRz
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198171369482#!/compare/1471305600/1471392000 - sold 11 keys - http://imgur.com/a/ZU8rH
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198103071005#!/compare/1471305600/1471392000 - sold 80 keys (?) - http://imgur.com/a/E69lD
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198314296893#!/compare/1471305600/1471392000 - sold 2 keys - http://imgur.com/a/vf488
Bought:
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198134523989#!/compare/1471305600/1471392000 - bought 51 keys - http://imgur.com/a/5MW91
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197992634049#!/compare/1471305600/1471392000 - bought 2 keys - http://imgur.com/a/jdl5T
Classifieds Buyers @20: http://imgur.com/a/ZNORk
9x @20 = Quickbuying price
Outpost:
Sellers
@20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28284599
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28387500
@20.11
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28417585
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27975519
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25788259
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28354949
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28411354
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27623733
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28392124
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28372886
Buyers
@20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28420595
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28392124
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28418132
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28195490
Conclusion: 20 is the quickbuying price, keys and easily be bought and sold @20.11.
hey, maybe better would be 20-20.11 range?
Imo there are two many buyers @20 to have it in the range, it's the quickbuying price.
To prove even more that 20.11 is the most common trading point, here are tons and tons of sales:
Sales @20.11:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28417585
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198031410761#!/compare/1471305600/1471392000 - sold 1
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198031410761#!/compare/1471219200/1471305600 - sold 5
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198031410761#!/compare/1471132800/1471219200 - sold 4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27975519
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198103071005#!/compare/1471305600/1471392000 - sold 82
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198103071005#!/compare/1471219200/1471305600 - sold 181
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198103071005#!/compare/1471132800/1471219200 - sold 33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25788259
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197990187634#!/compare/1465689600/1471392000 - sold 4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28392124
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198023557977#!/compare/1471219200/1471305600 - sold 8
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198023557977#!/compare/1471132800/1471219200 - sold 6
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28372886
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198140874949#!/compare/1470096000/1470614400 - sold 9
4 new buyers @20.11: http://imgur.com/a/vveKy
https://backpack.tf/u/76561198046964317
https://backpack.tf/u/76561198057719290
http://backpack.tf/u/76561198047510846
https://backpack.tf/u/76561198128826431
Easily sold one @20.11: http://imgur.com/a/pEnBC
Wow! Now that this has been suggested there are buyers @ 20.22 and 20.33
https://snag.gy/Bt3vaq.jpg
Young but hey!
I've stated numerous times that discussions on the key economy go on the forums, not the suggestions.
I haven't had any trouble buying at 19.66: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28409604#latest
http://i.imgur.com/vX01YZK.png
I think it's pretty obvious that 20 ref is the most common trading point, it feels like you're making it 20.11 to get around the cooldown
20 can't be a common trading point with this amount of buyers, it should be obvious that it's currently a quickbuying price. Also, whenever I have listed a key @20 I sold it within less than an hour.
20 is a common trading point due to the number of buyers. Quickbuyers make up almost the entire key-buying market, so their prices reflect what the majority of keys are being sold at. The key you listed was sold so quickly because 20 ref is what keys are being bought and sold at currently, and there's a huge market for buying them
We can both say a lot of stuff, but I can disprove you with an example.
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5758119d83de6b18e273c4b1 <- was accepted with a single (barely valid) buyer at the suggested price and tons of buyers @19.88 even though it's not included in the range, also there were 2 pages of sellers @19.88 in that case.
except the buy order you're using as the evidence was created 6 hours ago: http://i.imgur.com/65SPMQe.png
if this suggestion stays up for a while and the buy order stays up and buying (and the other bots raise their price, which they usually do when a new key price is suggested), then I support 20.11. For now I'll stay neutral and lean towards 20 flat.
The buyer used in that suggestion was young and unbumped, I don't really see your point.
Please screenshot and list classified seller histories for sellers at 20 and 20.11, so we can see if sales are common across both.
I suppose you mean 20.11? Also, what is the reason to that? There are not really any valid sellers @20, either <1 hour old or invalid for a different reason.
Yes, edited. I just said the reason - so that we can see if sales are common across both.
Edit: wow I read your suggested price as 20-20.11. Ok, ignore the 20 part then. But screenshot and histories at 20.11 would still be useful.
Comments that don't add anything constructive on key suggestions will get warned.
Okay, thanks
Alright, that's fair, will do that.
Doesn't really matter if there are a lot of buyers. If the buyers are successful, it's a common trading point.
Then explain this to me: https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5758119d83de6b18e273c4b1
There were tons of buyers @19.88 and barely any @20, yet 19.88 was left out of the range (which seems logical to me).
I think you missed my point completely. There can be a lot or few buyers. The number of buyers doesn't matter. What matters is where sales are happening. If the key sellers are buying at 20 ref and selling at 20.11 ref at equal rates, 20 ref should be in the range.
I can't see whether any of those buyers at 19.88 in the suggestion you linked are successful because that's a 2 month old suggestion.
The buyers @20 aren't that successful either way, most sales do happen @20.11.
Classifieds Sellers @20.11: http://imgur.com/a/f1T14
https://backpack.tf/item/3994651379
https://backpack.tf/item/4184789935
https://backpack.tf/item/4965090312
https://backpack.tf/item/4776738145
https://backpack.tf/item/5033028943
https://backpack.tf/item/4983929220
https://backpack.tf/item/4226705315
https://backpack.tf/item/3341967842
https://backpack.tf/item/3341888654
https://backpack.tf/item/2517686142
FINALLY! A dude with proof! I was starting to wonder when someone was going to make the suggestion for 20.11, I see keys being sold for them everywhere. +upvote
time to buy keys lol
GR8 im only playing the game now. not trading.