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Sales:
@20.77
Sold
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198295486957#!/compare/1472428800/1472515200 - sold 10 - http://imgur.com/a/8Vi3n
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198275515174#!/compare/1472342400/1472515200 - sold 22 - http://imgur.com/a/fkjAE
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198304727898#!/compare/1472428800/1472515200 - sold 11 - http://imgur.com/a/BqpHR
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198310752705#!/compare/1472428800/1472515200 - sold 13 - http://imgur.com/a/tfzNM
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198159684317#!/compare/1472428800/1472515200 - sold 27 - http://imgur.com/a/fM7HW
Bought
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198084708976#!/compare/1472428800/1472515200 - bought 5 - http://imgur.com/a/WsTwf
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198182328219#!/compare/1472428800/1472515200 - bought 19 - http://imgur.com/a/teLfk
@20.66
Sold
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198310144372#!/compare/1472428800/1472515200 - sold 5 - http://imgur.com/a/cbgx2
Bought
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198171369482#!/compare/1472428800/1472515200 - bought 11 - http://imgur.com/a/gG1vQ
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198304302520#!/compare/1472428800/1472515200 - bought 32 - http://imgur.com/a/GlA6D
Outpost:
Sellers
@20.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28354949
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28428192
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28441886
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28453477
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28333845
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28454244
@20.77
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28443659
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28392124
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28127114
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28455326
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28174260
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28445051
@20.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28449747
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27623733
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28450119
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28203719
No sellers @20.55 with stock and the buyers have no/little success so there is no reason to include it in the range.
I agree with that. Because many buyers pay 20.77 ref sometimes 20.88
To further prove that 20.55 does not belong in the range I have decided to attempt to buy keys @20.55, I now have my buy order up for 2 days and I've not managed to buy a single key in that time while constantly being the best bumped buyer.
Time for more proof.
Sales:
@20.77
http://imgur.com/a/s9sJB
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198275515174#!/compare/1472774400/1472860800 - sold 4
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198275515174#!/compare/1472688000/1472774400 - sold 3
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198275515174#!/compare/1472342400/1472601600 - sold 47
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28443659
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198023557977#!/compare/1472601600/1472688000 - sold 10
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28392124
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197980621261#!/compare/1472428800/1472515200 - sold 3
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197980621261#!/compare/1472342400/1472428800 - sold 5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28127114
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198056209175#!/compare/1472774400/1472860800 - sold 3
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28455326
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198087273147#!/compare/1472774400/1472860800 - sold 2
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198087273147#!/compare/1472688000/1472774400 - sold 1
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198087273147#!/compare/1472601600/1472688000 - sold 25
Also easily sold one @20.77 with no hassle: http://imgur.com/a/SWjMn
wakey wakey mods :) this is just as valid 5 days later as it was the day it was made. good job again salvage. This needs a pass already lol
this is still here what?????
I've sold five keys @ 20.77 and three of them sold in ten minutes, if this helps.
fun fact as well: 3 of those keys I bought at 18.66 ref each. the other 2 at 20 ref each. gg B)
Hm, interesting. Upvote then.
Accidently sold another one @20.77: http://imgur.com/a/9o0H1
1 good proof that keys need to rise in the latter part. heh. Bet you can't find him anywhere xd
http://m.imgur.com/6Mqrqju http://m.imgur.com/WZI13sH
66 keys bought plus has some 30+ ref if in his bp if not mistaken
Sales @20.66 still happen regularly, it is still justified in the range, in all honesty, this has been open for way too long..
Sales @20.66:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28367359
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198068843057#!/compare/1473033600/1473120000 - bought 5
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198068843057#!/compare/1472947200/1473033600 - bought 9
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198068843057#!/compare/1472860800/1472947200 - bought 3
[u]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28404828 - not even a regular bumper
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198175499207#!/compare/1472947200/1473033600 - bought 4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28452315
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198042145273#!/compare/1473033600/1473120000 - bought 1
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198042145273#!/compare/1472947200/1473033600 - bought 6
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198042145273#!/compare/1472860800/1472947200 - bought 15
Well now there are plenty of buyers @ 20.88 I managed to sell one recently @ 20.88 Yeah I know this probably doesn't help but this suggestion has took so long to get approved it's a bit low compared to the amount of bots buying @ 20.88
See my reply to Carbon (at the very bottom).
Yeah some good points there! Looks good Upvote! An update is recommended soon but I completely understand about the mods! Well we shall see I don't see buyers to stick at 20.88 for long! Key prices change every month! =)
I think you are missing my point, I don't think this to be an accurate representation of the market in any way, but I won't bother resuggesting either as the mods that usually handle key suggestions do not seem to show any acitivity atm, if any of them tells me to resuggest I will, but until then, this'll stay open.
Oh no I completely got your point! Yeah I was trying to say I completely agree with not re-suggesting right now I'm saying perhaps in future keys will go up and then a suggestion would need doing, Keys fluctuate often so I'm just saying if they come down then this will be fine! If keys keep going up (21+) then this may need doing again but by the time that happens then this will be accepted! So what I'm saying is pretty obvious logic really I've just cocked it up in some long paragraph XD
"No sellers @20.66 with stock and the buyers have no/little success so there is no reason to include it in the range."
Did you mean 20.55?
Yep, fixed.
Current Classifieds:
-Aged sellers and bots at 20.55/20.66 [url]http://imgur.com/a/GCMZW[/url]
-Aged sellers and bots at 20.66: [url]http://imgur.com/a/j8PAp[/url]
-Buyers at 20.66 (No buyers at 20.77):[url]http://imgur.com/o54f3Tl[/url]
There is still quite a few people selling at 20.55, and a solid page's worth at 20.66. Granted the 20.55 sellers are a bit sketchy but there is still a boatload still selling at 20.66. The range up to 20.77 is unnecessary. (not to mention ranges on currency are annoying as all hell)
There are no bumped sellers @20.55, I also provided tons of sales @20.77 justifying the range.
Disagree with this proposal of raising prices. Almost all trades are 20.44 - 20.55
Not at all.
Rarely any trades are 20.44 - 20.55, I have got many for 20.66 ref and re-sold for 21 ref. Just goes to show that keys are increasing quick.
My buy orders- https://gyazo.com/760ea0471de6d160d82ed2dee5d4cf1d
https://gyazo.com/9dadb1884cde9d4e30af283796c5f90c
https://gyazo.com/f1e464f5baeb9308227de97fd94905b5
Sold - https://gyazo.com/555270fdaee0861a6a3ef3fdf785da14
https://gyazo.com/5f3a3a41c344c60acebea545d5f95ae2
https://gyazo.com/e14dfe755ed5eb1f67d8635908c6baaf
So these kinda need some type of rise
OP has suggested with this amount of evidence in the recent past, and those suggestions were accepted. So the evidence OP provided should be sufficient.
OP's recent suggestions:
Aug 17/16: http://backpack.tf/suggestion/57b4409dc440453f0023cec3
Aug 12/16: http://backpack.tf/suggestion/57ae42db83de6b020e64adff
This proposal of raising price is not valid anymore
We gave time to the market and its adjusts itself.
Yes, it stabilized at the price I suggested.
Hope This Will Help
Every Sell For 20.66
http://prntscr.com/cdbanh
http://prntscr.com/cdbb3c
http://prntscr.com/cdbbcl
http://prntscr.com/cdbbtr
http://prntscr.com/cdbc2m
http://prntscr.com/cdbcgy
http://prntscr.com/cdbda5
I "censored" the buyers name so they could keep their privacy and don't complain, in case if they didnt want their steam name shared in this.
They can be tracked anyways by using the compare tool but w/e, thanks for providing addtional proof.
I'm still in support of this change, many sellers at .66-.77 and many buyers still.
.44-.55 is obviously outdated.
I honestly don't know why this is not accepted yet, it's the most stable key price since it was 20 ref originally. And both ends have massive amounts of proof.
I sold 2 recently for 21 ref. Again, keys do need another raise soon.
https://gyazo.com/0002efbd0602b9bffa32e1b968882910
https://gyazo.com/2c033225043c5f63603bd74a99369aba
Me too, but those have to be considered outliers at this time with Spirit having tons of keys @20.77 unsold for 2 days now.
not sure if 20.66 is the common trading point anymore
Yeah it is, buyers @20.66 are still successful
Sales @20.66:
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198134523989#!/compare/1472860800/1472947200 - bought 3 - http://imgur.com/a/bmR3x
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198068843057#!/compare/1472947200/1473033600 - bought 6 - http://imgur.com/a/hBDg1
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198034401101#!/compare/1472947200/1473033600 - bought 1 - http://imgur.com/a/5YlzB
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197998374145#!/compare/1472947200/1473033600 - bought 2 - http://imgur.com/a/UN97a
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198143722439#!/compare/1472947200/1473033600 - bought 20 - http://imgur.com/a/Q82xn
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198171369482#!/compare/1472947200/1473033600 - bought 26 - http://imgur.com/a/4R3NO
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198310144372#!/compare/1472947200/1473033600 - bought 4 - http://imgur.com/a/0VFuE
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198107520045#!/compare/1472947200/1473033600 - bought 1 - http://imgur.com/a/61MRb
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198097271466#!/compare/1472947200/1473033600 - bought 7 - http://imgur.com/a/Q6F37
This range still reflects the current market perfectly, even after 6 days.
Yea seeing a lot of classified bots buying and selling @ 20.77 ref. Definitely ez upvote!
This has nothing to do with this specific suggestion, if you want to discuss key prices more generally then post on the forums.
Plenty of buyers at 20.88 now. Might wanna resuggest?
I honestly won't bother resuggesting, I don't think there are currently any mods active that would handle key suggestions, the suggested range has been the most stable price for keys since they originally were 20, it stayed stable for 8 freaking days, yet nobody bothered accepting, I'll just leave this open until I get a response, this also might be accepted as better than current anyways.
Good point, thanks
Even crap.tf has raised their buy price to 20.66 and selling at 20.77 - they have 0 in stock and are notoriously behind-the-times.
Mods dropped the ball on this and left it too long. ~20 buyers for 20.88 - 21 ref now on classies alone. Loads. Worth the resuggest now Salvage. It's out of the cool-down period with pretty stable buying/selling 20.88-21 from what I see and have seen the last 2 days. Doubtfull the weekend will change this very much.
I will just wait for a mod's response here, I don't want to resuggest only to have it open for another unbelievely long time only to have to resuggest again in the end, if you want to take this, do so! I'd happily close this.
hmmm.... I'll see if I have time later. Will get some personal sales first methinks ;)
17 buyers 20.88 and above, no sellers below. This is definitely low now.