Suggestion: Sunbeams Hong Kong Cone at 1100 keys

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~360 keys

sunbeams

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This suggestion was accepted Wed, 14 Dec 16 01:23:23 +0000 by Vijf Kilo Boter (met voetjes).

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2 Recent Sales

Sale 1: It's a Secret To Everybody Virtual Viewfinder (1100)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073592638#!/compare/1479168000/1479254400

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197964782863#!/compare/1479168000/1479254400

Sale 2: Unusable due to no recent sales on the GE Co-Pilot

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198059777057#!/compare/1473120000/1473292800

I see something wrong with the chat logs.

Chara: that would be really bad for me. dont do a price suggestion please.

Potential price manipulation right there by Chara. Knows what it sold for, yet doesn't think it should be priced at that.

Price suggestions are for reporting sales, not suggesting random prices.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073592638#!/compare/1479686400/1480032000

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198096619846#!/compare/1479600000/1480377600

2 more sales ~1200 keys

So pricing down my unusual bc i didnt accpet your offer hm?. and the veiwfinder is outdated ;)

Doesn't seem to be according to this page

https://backpack.tf/unusual/Virtual%20Viewfinder

3months=Outdated hm?

It doesn't have an outdated logo indicator

but logicly outdated right?

It was updated on the 30th of august, so it's indate.

It would probably better to have a mini here due to the fact that the viewfinder is pretty close to being outdated ( about 13 days). It's probably best to see a mini here.

not to mention but not really important

probably csgo/cash or brokering.

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198149516147#!/compare/1477353600/1477612800

I'll let this ride for now and re-open another one with a mini on the view if this doesn't pass. I saw that sale too, not sure if it was given to a friend. CSGO wasn't involved though. Maybe a cash trade.

Why would an indate hat need a mini? That makes no sense.

im just pointing out that its about to get outdated :p

So? Even if it went outdated, the sale occured when it was indate so it wouldn't require a mini.

So there are like 6 on the market, and your'e pricing it down from 1 sale? How bout you wait for another sale... I have a c/o of 1200k in items, it's a downvote for me. Vvf is 950-1250, and needs a mini. 1100?? Lmao, Demon offered me ~1000k in items for this hat yesterday. He just wants the hat.

looks good, upvoted

So much salt from beams HKC owners

It's not how he prices it, it's how he responds towards not getting a deal from it which bothered us resulting us having an aggression towards the suggestor.

in other words we all can't sell for 1200 and don't want a price drop

Not true at all, I've recieved multiple offers for around 1200 keys. Not all offers are great. We all declined TheDemon's "great" offers for this hat, now hes suggesting a new price for us based off 1 sale. Nice! I'm not salty at all, I'm most likely going to sell this hat for 1200 and re-open another suggestion if SOMEHOW this suggestion gets accepted off 1 SALE... smh

Nah, this suggestion doesn't look too good, a mini will be brought up for the vvf. If anything the cone should be raised up to 1250 keys, but a refresh at 1200 is better, since all the sellers are selling it for 1200 flat.

I just said it to feed the salt

you missed this:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198057452720#!/compare/1473984000/1474070400 --- sale at 1245 keys, needs some mini's but won't change much

and since the VVF is litteraly days away from going out of date, you should use the sale I mentioned above to update the VFF, and only then update this one

Agreed, this hat isn't the one that needs a drop. The vvf is what needs a new price suggestion.

Id probably mini the secret view. Pretty much all sales from the prev. suggestion are outdated, except for the high end sale (which expires in a few days).

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198057452720#!/compare/1473984000/1474070400 this is the most recent usable sale. I think only the duped beams pusher needs a mini. Thats probably around 1200, making this closer to a refresh than a drop.

Theres one other sale but that involves a ton of unpriced hats

Lucky you, I came across probably the only valid duped beams pencil pusher sale while working on the PS Anger :P

Sold for Miami Nights Das Gutenkutteharen (Mini at 32 below) + Poisoned Shadows Anger (Barely in-date, should probably be updated)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28515591 - B/O of 260

Seller: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073592638#!/compare/1475884800/1475971200

Buyer: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198061376237#!/compare/1475884800/1475971200

Still working on the Anger, I’ll keep you posted, but this’ll probably end up being around 250, based on the sales I currently have

Yeah, I saw that sale last night and wanted to mini the anger, but was too tired :P

Theres a current seller at 160 on that anger [really sketchy trader though]

Alright, so I've finished working on the Anger, but I'm not sure about the range:

http://backpack.tf/suggestion/5835608a86674737db68a854

If all the information in there is correct, this will cap the Beams Pencil at 260

I feel like the range there will end up being on the high side, but for the anger it may end up working.

In turn, that probably results in a high value pusher mini, and with that, the sale will be ~1250 for the vvf and the cone.

It'd seem weird to raise the cone to 1250 when all sellers are at 1200, so its probably best to postpone the cone. [I mean the cone's update, but i didnt want to break the sound of 'postpone the cone']

Close this suggestion and wait for further sales :-)

He's most likely not going to close the suggestion, even though it's going to get declined as of the moment. But obviously, this suggestion needs more sales. The vvf should be 1250 keys based off its most recent sale (still needs a mini). This cone should technically be raised to 1250 keys, but all the sellers are at 1200 keys, so it wouldn't make sense to raise the cone. A refresh at 1200 would be a lot better. Honestly thinking about it, it doesn't make sense to drop a hat 100 keys because it was traded for a hat worth 50 keys more, based off one of its recent sales.

two more sales happened:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198085269574#!/compare/1480204800/1480377600

thats ~1100 tops. Nun is currently way too high.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28305218 was unsold for months at 300

http://backpack.tf/suggestion/57752669866747218f11652f is probably closer to 250-300.

~1100 is ignoring the fact that most of the lowtiers are outdated and probably some 10-15 keys lower in total (leak boron, vivid rubber, translator for the most part) and the fact that the scorching mountaincap is duped, and has the nun at 300 (so its probably even lower realisticly). The blizz view is also outdated.

DaD pullover (~600) Pfetti bedouin (~350 ish*) + beams merry (~75) + PE fish

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073592638#!/compare/1479686400/1480032000

Bedouin resold for RA falkirk (last sales on that were ~300-350, unsure why this was closed) + prof aus tomi (~15), haunted kiev (~6) and ~15 in garbage

http://backpack.tf/suggestion/577efc70c440451ca5702775 (high end here is a meh sale, but ill give it the benefit of the doubt)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073592638#!/compare/1480118400/1480204800

thats ~360, generously valued. The kirk sales are old tho so thats no solid mini for the bedouin really

Also sold here + 45 in hats for a duped GE TC

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198085269574#!/compare/1478217600/1478390400

Thats around but definitely not higher than 350

Merry resold here for duped steaming mancer + smoking FR + tesla sharkhat

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073592638#!/compare/1480291200/1480464000

thats a little below 80. other sales on that:

Sold +10keys for ooze hallmark

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198153246196#!/compare/1470096000/1473724800

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198106655391#!/compare/1473552000/1473724800

~80

Sold for PE softcap + ghosts baker and 2 keys

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198114903808#!/compare/1472947200/1473465600

~75 ish but all outdated

Sold for ghosts practitioner + dbd nappers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28485111 BO 85

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198153246196#!/compare/1473724800/1474070400

Caps but tbh thats likely lower. Practitioner is likely on the high side

Sold + ge dogger for stare vive

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198057160393#!/compare/1475539200/1475625600

Meh

Sold for showstopper BaL + 20 in sweets

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198160615510#!/compare/1478822400/1478995200

~70

Planets tossle + some unusualifier

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198147142110#!/compare/1479340800/1479427200

Should be eluded

All in all 70-80 ish

Fish has no recent sales other than scraptf exchanges, indicating its probably on the high side. Even without the fish mini, that sale is 1135 based on the minis allotted, of which the bedouin is probably high. All in all the sale is likely close to 1100.

1100 may not be that far off after all

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073592638#!/compare/1479686400/1480032000

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198096619846#!/compare/1479600000/1480377600

2 more sales ~1200 keys

(From Mighty bobs thing)

Foamy the Fearsome mentioned those two sales with mini's provided up above.

Okay ;cccccc

And more sales:

The strange one was sharked:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198177730251#!/compare/1479427200/1480809600

rip unboxer

Sold + a bunch of keys for a FN awp Dlore

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28624632

http://csgo.backpack.tf/profiles/76561198166406271#!/compare/1480896000/1481155200

Sold for those two hats and those 8 taunts

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073138645#!/compare/1481328000/1481414400

Id estimate that around 1000, but good luck miniing all of those

Sold bp for cash:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198096619846#!/compare/1480896000/1481068800

A sale around 1000 would support a drop. Also, that sharker owns two Sunbeams Hong Kong Cones.

Was gonna run swift minis on those hats to see if this should get a range, but not all are miniable, and the pool party's gonna be a ton lower than I expected, seeing current sellers on it (around 100; found a sale for an infernal smoke pool party (which has sellers at and below 100 too).

- That heralds is definitely not going to be more than 100; there are no other sales on that (except for a bulksale in may, other than that theres literally nothing). the dude that traded it for the cone ahd it for sale at 100 since he got it in may. 100 would be a VERY generous mini.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198156547427#!/compare/1464048000/1464220800 thats the sale, would be <0

- The box trot was recently priced at ~105, but thats likely too high. theres 5 on the market for less atm, and I've seen it set two high ends recently (both cases it capped at buyouts, FAR above them.). Probably closer to 85

- The shako is somewhat outdated at 130 and has a seller at 120. ~~I guess its a little lower realisticly~~ Cmon foamy be less lazy; okay Ima be a bit less lazy than I intended:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198082050096#!/compare/1474934400/1475280000 only other recent sale is for a GE CK, outdated without other usable sales. The dude that sold it for the CK has since been unable to sell the CK for 110, so that sale wont be more than 110 (bp price on the CK is 95, something between 95 and 110 is probably fine, since this is an estimate only anyway).

- The deepfried is on the high side at 100. Its only two other recent sales are scrap.tf exchanges: http://backpack.tf/item/3181451487 it was in scraptf for over a month before selling

- Couldnt find much on the chester. Only sales for other unpriced stuff (found a sale for a DaD crasher, other sale on that around ~40

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198050019450#!/compare/1481414400/1481500800

And this sale for a scorching nappers, at a BO of 70

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28589985

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198048076088#!/compare/1474934400/1478736000 (the same taunt used above to shark the strange cone)

~70 will work for it here

- The fresh brewed has sellers at 40 (will probably be able to fetch more)

- The badpipes has sellers at 40 (will probaly be less, counteracts the above in estimation)

- The most wanted has sellers at 25

- The battin is priced at 30

That would make the sale around 700, and thats with some generous estimations. That would be a clear outlier.

Other developments regarding the other sales:

- The MG nun was sold to scraptf lol. Its for sale there now at ~230. Supports that that sale should be slightly below 1100

- The fish now has a bunch of sales:

Sold with aussie axt and flies peak for scorching skid lid and was then resold for duped demonflame fff

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198135867659#!/compare/1480550400/1480723200

- Sold for 65 pure here:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198014728963#!/compare/1480636800/1480723200 pretty fast tho

Sold + 10 in sweets for what is now priced at 120 in hats

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198128370511#!/compare/1480896000/1481241600

would be 110. Thats high, and both of those hats are outdated. since 65 sold really fast, I guess averaging 65-110 gives us a fair estimate here (so li'l under 90).

That leaves us with:

- A sale at ~1120

- A sale a little below 1100

- A sale at <700

- A shark

- The dragonlore sale. Those have sales all over the place when its sold for TF stuff (over time Ive seen sales all between 1000 and ~2000). Keys were added to the cone for it

- A BP QS

- The viewfinder sale

Supportive indicators:

A seller at 1100 popped up

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28522891 it was offered + csgo adds (well over 100) on a pan here

Given the quantity of sales here and the uncertainty regarding the vvf, its probably best to give the vvf a range. That has not resold since the suggestion, that can be 1100-1250 or so, with the sale provided above and Jarool's pusher mini. 1100 will be a decent representation here.