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PECM:
Sale 1:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198036952412#!/compare/1492387200/1492473600
Sulphurous Salty Dog + 16 Keys
Mini:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198195731583#!/compare/1491955200/1492041600
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198067991057#!/compare/1491955200/1492041600
HG Salty Dog (90)
Makes 106
Sellers support a drop: http://i.imgur.com/LyyQ8oM.png
If another sale on the Salty happens let me know
https://marketplace.tf/items/523;5;u10 , unsold at 275/2.1= 130ish Keys , this is supportive of a drop .
Seller is Sweetstakes.tf
this is unsold for ages lol
Keys can go for $1.90, that's what people sell them at
Marketplace value of keys is the value that is considered if the sale / listed item is on marketplace , if its on steam market then steam community key price, you can't pick and choose things in your favor and even if the mini is low , the sale should be capped at 130 for being unsold for ages regardless.
Marketplace key value is higher then it should be. You should value it at how many keys you can get with those money
Yeah, you can get 130, because keys are 2$ on marketplace.tf. Polar once summed it up pretty well, but I can't find the comment rn
Salty is clearly low, suggestion went down to wait for more sales, would be better if you wait for salty to get the suggestion going / pass before updating this
Also we valued salty at 180 keys due to its outdated
price (4years) and it went all class. He is cool with that. He isn't really a trader, just sits on hat and wait for hats he like. 70 key drop In a trade like this just isn't logical. I can provide screenshots if he manage to add me back, it's either salty is higher or he did a bad trade, which both doesn't support a 70 key drop
Uh how am I going to put this without you know…
"we" valued it at 180 means you talking him into believing that it was worth 180. That being said, the hat needs a fuckin drop, unsold @~130 for 1.5 years lol
If you actually want to help please screen the trade, as you stated that 4 csgo keys were added aswell
Uh how am I going to put this without you know…
"we" valued it at 180 means you talking him into believing that it was worth 180. That being said, the hat needs a fuckin drop, unsold @~130 for 1.5 years lol
If you actually want to help please screen the trade, as you stated that 4 csgo keys were added aswell
I sent offer for that company, he added me and told me to add, and we got the trade
All in all, he want 200 in overpay. he was cool valuing the salty at 180, hence i added 20 keys
Unfortunately, neither of your opinions on what the hat is worth matter here. Sorry that you made a bad trade, but this is a loss you just have to accept bro
How does it not matter?
Clearly proves that the salty is much higher then what it is now
It proves nothing. Hat prices are decided based on what they actually sell for, not for what the traders THINK they might be worth. If we did it the second way then some god tier hats would be priced at 6 ref due to sharkers
Proving my points above:
Valuing it at 180: http://imgur.com/4QwkQlo
He know my hat is underpriced + He like sulp (reason he accept): http://imgur.com/rIhkpX9
He don't sell hats / not trading: http://imgur.com/z3nlj7b
What he valued it at doesn't matter
The fact he likes Sulp doesn't matter
The fact he claims to not be a big trader doesn't matter
Just accept the fact you made a bad trade and move on. It happens to everyone.
Lol i could have made a very good trade, and you guys took my good trade as proof to update this, therefor this is so low
Are you really this bad at taking a slight loss?
You are a trader dude, it happens.
Looking at your backpack I'm sure you'll survive
It's the logic that matters, I recently have 3 hats going down in price.
Well rip you, I guess
Maybe you should get better at researching the trade history of hats?
idk man
I couldn't do that. because this sale was priced directly at my sale alone. If this happens again I'll probably Just make my backpack private, as i believe someone is trying to screw me up, not this suggestor, he was requested to do this.
Why would anyone be trying to screw you up?
You are such a clearly rational guy
mini is low
Sold for HG Salty Dog and some CS GO Sweets
http://imgur.com/a/YjEDl
Yeah uh, if you could show us the sweets that would be usefull
ST/Wear/count it up idk
not my sale, it was just mention on the slaty sugg
doesnt look like much http://csgo.backpack.tf/profiles/76561198195731583#!/compare/1492041600/1492128000
Actually it was quite a bit - http://i.imgur.com/RrARlGN.png
Added Hanni as idk what R8 it was
Suggestion on salty got cancel due to this trade was not usable as csgo sweets were added.
With this being ~15 in sweets the sale should come close to it's bo of 105
so the price should be ~120
Yes, I told you thrice by now
I will resuggest once Hanni responded/Im home
Added 20 key, not 16, 4 of them were csgo keys
http://imgur.com/Q25J7rq
Thanks.
So to update the suggestion:
Mini on Sulphurous Salty:
http://backpack.tf/suggestion/58f169c8e33877745d7a538e
One sale that took a bit at 72 keys, then the sale for the ghosts salty + ~15 keys in cs:go stuff = 105 keys, average out of 72 and 105 is 88.5 keys
Sale 1 here was actually Sulphurous Salty + 16 keys + 4 cs:go keys = ~ 109 keys.
I dont think 3 keys are worth resuggesting for on its own.
It can be argued that 72 keys is an outlier for the sulph dog but I'm not sure about that,
72 seems low considering the price now, i believe salty went all class after the last accepted suggestion on it. 105 +20 = 125
109 rounds off to 110
This will stay open for a while to see if the Salty sells again, I will leave it open for now, for the reasons stated above
Wouldnt it be better to sell if the company sells again instead? There are 2 seller of company, 1 crazy high one on salty
Current price of 160+ is way too high. The prices on backpack.tf are supposed to represent what they would sell for in pure. Obviously this hat will not sell for 160+ since there's also an unsold on marketplace.tf at 125 keys. Given that you added 4 CSGO keys the total sale would be about 110 keys. As Woifi said, it might not be necessary to re suggest over a matter of keys. I think 106 or perhaps 110 keys looks fine here.
you forgot 15k csgo sweets were added
I don't see 15 keys of CSGO sweets anywhere in the Purple Energy Company Deal you provided?
Also, the Salty Dog has 2 sales.
- 76 keys pure
- 105 keys (ghost salty + 15k in cargo stuff)
That would make the average 88.5 keys + 20 keys that you added would make this sale at 109, so Alberny can leave this up or resuggest at 109 if he thinks that's necessary but that's going to be it.
Pure could be consider an outliner (Quicksell/low) as wolf suggested
''It can be argued that 72 keys is an outlier for the sulph dog but I'm not sure about that.''
He is not sure if it's an outlier (probably not) since it still took about 2 weeks to sell it. If 76 keys were truly a quicksell it would've sold sooner. Therefore the average is 88.5, so very strictly speaking the suggestion should be 109 (or round up to 110) but like Woifi said, might not be worth it to resuggest over that.
Agreed, Letting this pass would be the right thing
I don't think you got my point. What I meant, is that this suggestion will probably get accepted unless Alberny wants to close and re suggest at 109, which would be slightly more accurate. Anyhow, like Woifi said, this'll probably work here so I will upvote this suggestion.
Dude, just let it go.
You are grasping at straws for a couple of extra keys. Go take a nap or something and calm down
http://backpack.tf/item/4372605492 - Just got sold to scrap.tf
I sold it, supports the drop, upvote
How much did you sell it for?
Proof?
~90-95 ish @usual ratios
91 key ~11 ref
Eagle 😂😂this is what happens when you keep adding unboxers who are new/don't care about trading and giving them a shitty deal , which also explains the 3 drops your hats got.
No, i am being targeted, i already have proof, asking admin for helo. And he did not unbox it, according to him, he is the second owner
Glad I checked here. I was going to hit that PE Company on scrap cause I know how easy this hat is to sell, especially on SCM, and its super clean which is quite rare for PE Companys. I'll wait though until this suggestion gets up and I should then be able to pick up one for the new bp price in unusuals. Win win.
I might just be faster, you never know :P
Im planning to do that already :D
I'm a child, you got a problem with that?
Was onsold by scrap in a day. Should have nailed it when I had a chance but this suggestion spooked me. Dammit!
Guys calm down, this is a suggestion and not the place for personal differences or name calling. If you have to start a sentence with "not to be mean" or "no offense " it's probably better if you don't post it at all.
what a shit show of a suggestion lol, people need to chill
I would have hoped any of the hats involved had another recent useable sale by now, but neither the PE cm or the sulph satly dog have any.
Since we lack the evidence to call the 72 key sale on the salty dog an outlier we have to include it now and going with the suggested price as explained in my other comment that fixes all the sales.
This pe company man has also been sold to scrap.tf as a reaction to this suggestion, which is another sign that this needs a drop. A new seller appeared on the classifieds for 130 keys and he has now lowered his b/o to 115 keys (pure only).
This might be a bit too low in the end, so please if a new higher sale happens feel free to resuggest including that in the range.